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HCA posts stories of anti-vaxxers dying, scaring fence-sitters into the shot

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I can't believe CNBC wrote an entire article about some person who sent her father a lot of memes from reddit and who's father eventually decided to get vaccinated. I wonder why they didn't run any articles about how /r/fatpeoplehate was convincing people to go on a diet /s

Maybe because convincing someone not to engage in behavior that puts EVERYONE ELSE at risk is considerably different than individual issues with obesity? It's not you can cough someone else fat.

Vaccinations protecting others is a disproven assumption. Vaccinated people get infected and spread the virus just like unvaccinated people, if not more so due to being more careless and less likely to develop symptoms. Latest UK data shows more significantly more infections among vaccinated aged 40 and up.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/... (Page 13)

HCA = r/HermanCainAward which is a subreddit about anti-vaxers and mask refusers who die of Covid. I had thought it was Health Care Association or something like that. Thread title should probably change.

The CNBC article is sort of a rehash of a Slate article that has been on HN a few times:

https://slate.com/technology/2021/09/hermancainaward-subredd...

Earlier HN threads: https://hn.algolia.com/?q=hermancainaward

“Subreddit’s stories of anti-vaxxers dying scares fence-sitters into the shot” perhaps?

Title edited to fit HN length limits. Original article title is

> Reddit channel posts stories of anti-vaxxers dying of Covid, scaring fence-sitters into getting the shot

That was 24 characters too long for HN.

My brother got fired in South Florida for not getting vaccinated. I thought that was illegal...

Why would it be?

Because theirs alternatives to taking the vaccine, like exercise and a good diet. Why isn't there and exercise mandate or a diet mandate? It sounds stupid maybe to you, but to me if they are allowed to mandate vaccines, they should be allowed to say 'your diet isn't the best and you're likely to get sick and die. You can't work here unless you exercise' which honestly is more reasonable to me than mandating a vaccine. The CDC has guidelines for health and exercise, why isn't that being pushed as hard as mask? We know your diet has a bigger impact on covid than a mask, which to properly use you need to do a test BTW. I've worked with N-95 mask before corona and not everyone can wear them. We literally had to taking a breathing test, that was very weird to do in all honesty. People failed it often.

None of these claims sound reasonable, so I'd like to ask for some solid peer reviewed sources backing those.

Here I'll provide them:

This is about exercise and illnesses:

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/007165.htm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3905589/

Ive personally practiced this. I'm open to anyone who has exercised while sick to give their opinion if exercise helped them. The white blood cell count goes up.

I do not need to provide the diets effect on health. Just imagine eating the healthiest food you can think of and imagine eating lead. You can guess the effects (lead makes you blind i believe).

This is the cdcs exercise reccomendations:

https://www.cdc.gov/physicalactivity/basics/adults/index.htm

And here is the requirements by OSHA for people who use PPE. Its a fit test:

https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/standardnumber/19...

If I missed anything you would need to be more specific

The long and short of it is, businesses don’t like sick or dead customers or employees. Historically they’re not profitable.

As an employee its part of your job duties to not infect or kill any customers or co-workers.

A chef who doesn’t wash their hands after using the restroom would be fired. Why would not being vaccinated be any different?

The trouble of course is that people who are too far gone just say these are all actors and it’s made up (similar to any other group of deniers).

You probably don't want to trust any medical decision based on fear.

I have heart failure. Without medical treatment and very invasive medical treatment and I would die with in a matter of years.

Fear is highly motivating to get the treatment, because I don't want to die

Fear is a pretty useful motivating factor to quit smoking as well. I'm not sure why you would quit, if you weren't afraid of cardiovascular disease, emphysema, cancer, and so on.

> Fear is highly motivating to get the treatment, because I don't want to die

Fear is a good motivator in the first place, but then again if you only rely on fear when it comes to deciding what to do next, you make very poor decisions. There's a part where you need to be very rational as well.

Fear of killing others clearly hadn't been motivation enough.

Fear of their own death, however...

I've been to that subreddit. The people posting there are mentally ill. Who else spends their spare time gloating about unvaccinated people dying of covid, and even making fun of them?

The ends justify the means

The ends justify the memes

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