Why do people insist on trivialising our profession so much?
You don't get bootcamps for doctors or airline pilots. But people think they can go on some course, shit out a few lines of javascript/ruby/whatever and go get a job.
You don't get bootcamps for doctors or airline pilots. But people think they can go on some course, shit out a few lines of javascript/ruby/whatever and go get a job.
I don't really blame someone who is stuck in a shitty low paying job with no job guarantee. They have nothing to lose but try the whole coding thing and see if they can hit it big. The only issue with that is that if they don't enjoy learning how to code and are just doing it for quick money, they wouldn't be able to sustain that for a long period of time. I know a few people who tried bootcamps and then never got anywhere.
If you have a mid level IQ and are willing to put the work in and can self learn, coding is one of the best things you can try to get to six figure income. It literally costs nothing except your time for the most part.
When I started 9 years ago bootcamp grads made significantly less. My first gig, starting was 60K, now I'm making close to 200k.
In fact being licensed for small aircraft in the us isn't much different from a bootcamp in terms of time and effort, but that jump from personal to commercial airplanes is largely in more flight time and some specifics related to larger aircraft, but largely the skills are very similar.
I think the same is true of most software jobs.
I think part of it is the accessibility of both the tools and the knowledge compared to other fields. The two aforementioned professions are both gatekept behind expensive credentials as well (pillows don’t need a degree, but iirc the process to get licensed isn’t cheap). Additionally:
> shit out a few lines of javascript/ruby/whatever and go get a job.
Actually seems fine for a number of roles out there. There are plenty of jobs where it’s enough to shit out code that just works, while you probably won’t be commanding the salaries people gush over in more tech centric communities such as this, you can certainly make more money that you would in the typical roles that many people find available post-education. I’ve argued about this before here, but in my experience, you don’t have to be that great of a developer to maintain some form of employment in the industry.
When you have a field, that pays well, even in some of the lower windows, has a vast amount of learning resources readily available, is not locked behind time and money expensive credentials and has all the tools needed to learn do the job for free, it seems almost stupid not to consider it.
And there are programs for the lower levels of that amalgamated medical grouping that are much less involved than typical coding bootcamps.
The other part is that even the people with formal education have learned most of the stuff that they know through self-studying and real-world experience - very often you hear people in their first job saying that university didn't really prepare them for an actual job in software. And the skills that you leave university with are just a starting point - you have to keep learning throughout your entire career anyway.
There are essentially bootcamp programs to get pilot licenses. Most people I know who have or were pursing a license would do a couple hour class once a week or so, but you can also sign up for bootcamp style courses where you do a focused, 8ish hours a day, 5 day a week program for a month or so and assuming all goes well, end up with a pilot license. Of course, a license doesn't get you a airline job, you'll need to do additional training and acquire flight hours.
Software jobs don't have hours requirements like many professional fields (usually through license requirements), so that makes it a lot easier to get in.
Another thing is that since you have almost all the necessary info online, and that open source is a very big thing, there is way less gatekeeping compared to other industries.
Some can pick it up mind-boggingly quickly because their brains are naturally good at formal thinking, keeping many variables in their head, and being extremely precise and logical in their thoughts without much training. But again, that's such a small share of the population that "be a prodigy" is not really useful life advice.
True, but you are not going to get a tech job because you can set up a webpage. Maybe in 1999 San Francisco, but the world has moved on.
There are actually not that many jobs open to people who just know how to deal with a web framework.
There’s clearly a business need but as far as I know, there isn’t a mathematical-type of hardness to managing these types of websites. And on Wallstreet you have trading being performed with VBA Excel scripts…
You can mass throw neets at le epic coding bootcamp and hire those that perform decently. Like a repeat of the outsourcing trend during the 2000s.