Since I started using "safe" nulls with Ceylon, nearly a decade ago, later with Kotlin and TypeScript, I've been firmly in the camp of supporting nulls in the language instead of `Optional` or `Maybe`. Rust should've used them IMO... using `?` for error propagation instead is such a weird choice.
Example (from [1]):
// Assume
// fn halves_if_even(i: i32) -> Option<i32>
fn do_the_thing(i: i32) -> Option<i32> {
let i = halves_if_even(i)?;
// use `i`
}
Besides, the `?` is syntax sugar for the `try!` macro as explained in the `try!` macro docs [2], and has nothing to do with sum types, at least not directly.Ceylon would be a closer case where nullable types are represented as sum types and not a special-case in the language (`String | Null` is the same as `String?`)... but Ceylon, as Rust, special-cased the `?` operator for "something"... in Ceylon, they are used for null-checks, and in Rust, for propagating errors via the `try!` macro, which is what my previous comment was about.
[1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42917566/what-is-this-qu...
> Ceylon would be a closer case where nullable types are represented as sum types and not a special-case in the language (`String | Null` is the same as `String?`).
Aren't those union types? My understanding is that they are different from sum types, as you usually have to declare the sum types beforehand, and sum types are collections of values, while union types are collections of types, and are often declared "on the spot". At least that's how they work in Typescript, I don't know much about Ceylon.
To go back to option types, people usually like them because there are well-known patterns to program with them (like map). Of course you can get the same safety with static flow analysis (Typescript does this), but I think part of it is ergonomics, influenced by functional programming. Though if there is an overhead like in Java, I'm not sure about their value.
Ceylon:
alias StringOrInt = String | Integer;
StringOrInt myValue = "foo";
StringOrInt otherValue = 10;
Rust: enum StringOrInt {
Str(String),
Int(usize),
}
let my_value: StringOrInt = StringOrInt::Str("foo");
let other_value: StringOrInt = StringOrInt::Int(10);
In Ceylon, you're right you don't need to name a "union", which IMO makes it much nicer, as I was able to use adhoc unions everywhere, e.g. inside streaming operations: [ for x in foos if (x.something()) "foo" else 10 ]
The above "automatically" has type `[String | Integer]`. In Rust (and Kotlin) I would need to name a type just for this.Another disadvantage of Rust's approach is that the type variants are not types themselves. That's really annoying sometimes, e.g. you want to have a method that only handles one of the variants, but you can't (you need to pass the values the variant wraps separately, but that may be undesirable semantically as that would allow something that has no instance of the enum to also use the function).
As an interesting aside, Rust has what seem to be intersection types for trait bounds (fn toto<T: Trait1 + Trait2)(a: T)).
I'm still not sure about the tradeoffs between union/intersection types and sum/product types. I think the difference is that "set types" are structural, while algebraic types are nominal, which comes with the usual tradeoffs, but I'm not sure.
It is like Google uses their pseudo Java dialect when selling Kotlin features, instead of comparing it with proper Java.