It's like a rite of passage or something to hack and then install your own thing fighting harder than a salmon swimming up stream. There's a lot to be learned in the doing to be sure. It's the full of piss&vinegar stage of life. Eventually, you get tired of the time required to fight it, and just need something to work. Does that mean the man won? Maybe. However, I look at it like I won on finally becoming mature enough to realize that there are things much more important in life than banging my head on that particular brick wall. Just my $0.02 of grandpa ranting. Get off my lawn!

So on phone the only real alternative is SailFishOS ?

Are graphene releases/support completed tied to google releases/support? I had assumed they were able to update their version of android for a phone beyond what google does.

edit - found it https://grapheneos.org/faq#legacy-devices

> It cannot do that once device support code like firmware, kernel and vendor code is no longer actively maintained. Even if the community was prepared to take over maintenance of the open source code and to replace the rest, firmware would present a major issue, and the community has never been active or interested enough in device support to consider attempting this

And how do you think we will be getting third mature ecosystem if we never try anything? Complaining is easy