No, but an ecosystem of tools, and/or a hacker movement that he does think about would absolutely include something like this.

*rest of the world :D

it appears, that nowadays people do take Zuck(and jokes that fly over them) too serious, just like it was with Bill Gates... heh

fb isn't making much, if any, money on the hardware

When the average person's personal computing device is barely stronger than that phone graphics card it's pretty good.

> When the average person's personal computing device is barely stronger than that phone graphics card it's pretty good.

That's ok if you aren't strapping two screens on your face and trying to get the to run as high a refresh rate as you can go.

As someone who bought into the new VR revival right away and followed the development of the initial headsets as closely as someone outside the companies developing them could, and has owned and currently owns multiple headsets, I can tell you my experience with VR is performance is very key, and that standalone VR is pretty garbage.

Have you used the Quest 2? I've owned the original rift dev kit, a vive, a vive pro, and a quest 2.... the stand alone quest 2 experience is actually pretty amazing. I was skeptical, too, but it is quite impressive.

This is the old PC master race thing again. Well duh, of course the Quest 2 is garbage compared to your $3k VR setup, but a $300 flat entry point to the VR space - no additional purchase or PC required - is undeniably a good thing for everyone.

You should not be down voted. I can personally attest to what you are saying and I am a big fan of VR. Quest 2 games suck. Plain and simple. If you’re used to high fidelity graphically immersive deep story games, then you will never find satisfaction on Quest 2 native games. Connect to a PC for that.

You know what else is "garbage?" - games. Because no one plays games on their phone, since a $3k gaming tower in their home is much better. I also never eat at Burger King - because their food is not as good as a 5 star restaurant. In fact, games without top of the notch 600W GPU graphics are not played by anyone. If you play solitaire, it needs to run at 120FPS and use raytracing.

This is also why Walmart went out of business, because their stuff, while cheap, is of lower quality. Why would I want a $10 "leather outer" belt when I can get full grain hyde from Sacks. Their grocery business failed too once Whole Foods showed up.

Framerate and resolution definitely not.

Quest 2: 1832x1920 per eye, up to 120 fps Vive: 1080×1200 per eye, up to 90 fps.

And as a owner of both, the screen door effect is extremely noticeable on vive, but just about eliminated on quest 2.

External tracking is a tradeoff, it is more accurate but requires more setup and the cable gets in the way frequently.

Personally with a wifi 6 router and 120fps, latency in wireless mode is good enough that I rarely if ever use my vive these days.

The Quest 2 framerate goes up to 120, it has significantly higher resolution. The original vive doesnt have diopter adjustment. If you meant IPD, then it has an extra 2mm over the Quest 2, not particularly important. The Quest 2 also has FAR superior lenses. The original Vive lenses are the second worst (WMR being the worst) lenses to ever ship in a major consumer HMD. The Quest 2 also only has a minor (unnoticeable) latency jump when wired to a PC, and can function as a wireless headset. There is a reason the Quest 2 is by far the most popular headset on PC

I too was confused by the statement. I went to VP2, which I think has best specs on the market, and even w/ slight loss of vertical, it's amazing and fun.

No doubt its still tons of fun. My comment was just relating to buying one now

Setting up all those stupid sensor boxes is a massive chore that takes away the immense joy of throwing it in a backpack and bringing it to the cottage for a round of Beat Sabre.

Honestly, I hated setting up, packing up and re-setting up my Vive. As a VR dev, I had to do it so often that the benefits of the sensor-free, wire-free, and; of course, most importantly computer-free operation of the Quest - combined with its ability to mimic 90% of the experiences I’d had on the Vive without the need for that extra PC - far far outweigh anything the Vive has to offer.

And if I want what the Vive has to offer, I can just plug in to my PC.

This is speaking from years of experience as a VR dev and user. This external sensorless experience means everything.

Say what you will about the need to register with a Facebook account. I need to register with PSN to get a lot of serious leverage out of a PlayStation console. That’s been consoles for decades. It’s obvious people just pick on this because of its attachment to Facebook. I’m just glad it’s opening up the experience of VR to more people in a massively low cost and practical way that did not exist before.

Half-Life: Alyx and many other games, like SO MANY... Moss, Job Simulator / Vacation Simulator, Rick and Morty, Accounting Plus, In Death, The Lab, Beat Sabre, etc... all super fun.

But Alien: Isolation in VR is the greatest entertainment experience of my life. Amazing.

He might be talking about Focus 3 maybe?

Chances are they’re talking about the vive flow, which released today. General consensus is it lacks mini-oled and the resolution it would need to be “next gen’. Among other bizarre shortcomings

I'll wait until someone else creates a sort of marketplace, or at least clear methods to install games.

A 500$ Quest 2 without Facebook spying sounds great.

For all intents and purposes, Index and Vive are equivalent when it comes to the game support, so while at a hardware level Index is better (though Vive is about to announce new stuff too, and the Vive Pro is quite competitive with Index), it's besides the point here.