Again, no other airline was impacted by this? Only 1 of 11 SWA hubs are in Florida[1], there is no way 50% of their aircraft go through Florida on any given day.
Continues to not make any sense.
Continues to not make any sense.
“Flight delays and cancellations occurred for a few hours Friday afternoon due to widespread severe weather, military training, and limited staffing in one area of the Jacksonville Air Route Traffic Control Center,”
“The big issue is that Florida is roughly 15% of our trips, but on any given day, upwards of 50% of our aircraft lines flow through Florida,” Jordan told TPG. “You’ve got all those lines that just stopped in Florida, so you’ve got a lot of aircraft caught up in that,”
“We’re not hub and spoke, and we do very little out-and-back,” Jordan said. “So when you stop a line, you’re stopping a line where the aircraft is attempting to flow across the country.”
Union lies because an organized walk-out is illegal.
Seriously... no other airline is impacted by the weather and ATC issues? The FAA even released a statement contradicting SWA's official excuse.
Where? They're on record supporting the weather and staffing explanations.
https://twitter.com/FAANews/status/1447249660884754441
"Flight delays & cancellations occurred for a few hours Friday PM due to widespread severe weather, military training, & limited staffing in one area of the Jacksonville en route center."
https://twitter.com/FAANews/status/1447708023724679175
"To be clear: None of the information from Southwest, its pilots union, or the FAA indicates that this weekend’s cancellations were related to vaccine mandates."
They just don't want to be blamed for the cascading failure that took days to resolve.
https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2021/10/11/southwes...
"No FAA air traffic staffing shortages have been reported since Friday."
Regardless, "severe weather" in Jacksonville doesn't impact a regional route like LAX -> SJC... why is that cancelled today?
"No FAA air traffic staffing shortages have been reported since Friday" implies there were shortages on Friday, yes?
> Regardless, "severe weather" in Jacksonville doesn't impact a regional route like LAX -> SJC... why is that cancelled today?
It does if the plane flying that route was coming from Florida the night before.
They're still saying ATC shortage. Source on that not being true?
SW does point to point flows. A SW flight might only leave from my town once/day on its way to the next stop and then another. If we have bad weather, all the stops down the line are impacted.
Planes are also not the only issue. Crews have strict rules about how much downtime they have to have, so any delays can mean crews run out of flight time.
Airline scheduling is complicated.
If you're doing mostly east/west multi-hop trips, it doesn't seem unreasonable for a lot of those to touch Florida. It's a popular destination.
It's not suprising that an airline with unique routing faces unique challenges.
Perhaps this LAX -> SJC flight happens to pass through Florida too? Come on... the crews flying these regional routes are the same crews that do it all day every day. Why are these flights impacted too?
The route, no. The aircraft, very possibly. An aircraft that flew from MIA to LAX last night might be the one intended to fly the LAX to SJC flight today. The flight crew aren't glued to the plane.
Flight 3027[1] does LAX -> SJC, but first it does TPA (Tampa) -> STL (St Louis), and STL -> LAX.
There may be some back and forth flights, but if that plane goes back to LAX right away, it's probably flight 2497 [2], which goes to BWI (Baltimore) after LAX.
If that plane can't leave Florida in the morning, there goes your noon flight to SJC, and your early afternoon flight to LAX. Plus, the plane may not have made it to Baltimore and the schedule is messed up the next day too.
[1] https://www.southwest.com/air/flight-status/path.html?depart...
[2] https://www.southwest.com/air/flight-status/path.html?depart...
The only reason you have less impact in a traditional hub and spoke system is that there are extra aircraft and reserve crews in the hubs (some are at the airport, some at home at a few hours notice) and every other flight passes through the hub. So if the Atlanta to Miami and back thing goes really wrong, another crew and aircraft will fly the Atlanta to Vegas flight and sometimes the rest of the trip.
Doesn't happen for a simple delay, but if the delay pushes the crew over their duty time limits on the outbound flight for example the return to hub would be cancelled and a reserve crew would pick up the next flights starting from the hub. The timed-out crew would go to be hotel and fly back as a passenger with the next days flight.