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> Behind its ultra-modern, fluid user interface of ocean blue and pearl white widgets

I sometimes feel there must be a secret, second version of Teams that is not a steaming pile of shit with bland UI, idiotic text input, copy&paste behaviour and non-functional activity detection. If one has used Slack before, Teams feels like a sad joke. The video calling is pretty good though.

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I can't understand why there are no tabs of any kind. Need to find a file in some other chat or channel and get back to where you were? Leave, find file, come back, post. Why?

And why can I search for chat logs and only find the exact line I searched for, but not the context it was posted in?

I have never used Slack professionally, and Teams did make my life easier when it came to not sending E-mail all the time or having all types of editors and programs there for us to work collaboratively, but the interface, memory hogging, slow loading, no progress bars for downloading (no download management at all! Click on a huge file by accident? It's getting downloaded, no way to stop it!). Have I clicked a button or not? No way of knowing until the thing loads, and that sometimes takes a second.

Microsoft never puts tabs in their UIs. Examples: Entire Office suite, Explorer (which still has no tabs, even in Windows 11) or literally anything except the web browser, which has tabs because Opera.

They do have tabs in the office suite, for the toolbars. And there are those annoying settings windows where the tab rows swap places when you switch tab.

These aren't tabs in the sense GP means, because they don't allow you to do something with multiple documents or such.

Yes, Microsoft GUIs are riddled with tabs of the other kind.

Visual Studio (Code) have tabs as far as my hazy memory reaches back.

Onenote.

If one has used a computer before, Teams feels like a sad joke. It's like none of the developers grew up in the 90s or even the 00s with a computer. I can't think of a single piece of software I used in that time frame which behaved as terribly as Teams.

It's bizarre that an OS developer can't follow its own standards. Of all the companies to not support native Windows UI elements, why is it Microsoft?

Microsoft has never followed its own standards. They came out with the flat toolbar and 3D menu bar, neither of which were a published Windows API. Then when everyone started emulating that with their own, often poorly implemented, APIs Microsoft came out with the ribbon bar.

The standard reply to that question is "Microsfot is a big company and each team is in control of which frameworks they want to use".

Yeah I get your point, and think about it every time I start an Electron based installer to customise Visual Studio installation.

If you are unlucky enough to be in multiple Teams , it is totally unusable as you need to log in as you switch. Slack just has them listed as "supertabs", null sweat, constantly logged in.

I have been using https://github.com/TonCunha/multi-microsoft-teams for this and it works quite well.

Oh that looks great. I knew buying one of the most powerful laptops with a Tiger Lake H CPU and upgrading it with 64GB RAM will come handy one day I just didn't expect that day to come so soon.

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