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They have failed to monetize one of the most important products on the web development. They have never provided profits. I don’t know about the greedy part, it is more about survival at this point. That is capitalism.

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If I was them I would've just sold the company to Microsoft a long time ago. I suspect that everyone, including users, would be better off that way.

I thought this was the next logical step after Windows started incorporating containers - for several years you saw the two companies get closer together until suddenly they no longer seemed to be on speaking terms. Docker really missed their opportunity here.

Doesn't Microsoft already make money from private (read enterprise) github docker registries/azure container registry while dockerhub is serving free stuff for them?

Enterprise registry is about access control which Microsoft knows how to do, they already have enterprices in their ecosystem, no?

Not sure what you mean, Docker and Microsoft collaborated closely on Windows containers and Microsoft still recommends docker desktop:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/virtualization/windowsconta...

Is there a non docker desktop path forward for windows containers on windows 10 machines?

A fully integrated docker desktop + vscode would be a game changer for all involved. Docker + VSCode is already good, but more integration would be way better.

They missed the boat on this, there were rumors Microsoft offered as much as $4bn back in ~2016. Whether that's true or not, if there was an exit to be had that was around the time it would have been viable.

Both of you are 100% right. Will be interesting to see how this seemingly no-win scenario plays out for the ecosystem and toolchain, beyond just the Docker products.

And this is how lots of great products and ideas get killed. Failing to monetize them.

Singularity containers not mentioned yet: are unique, they don't change on use and can bind mount resources, run without root privileges. You can actually execute the image files and include them in the well known Unix pipe sequences in your favorite shell. Really powerful stuff.

They block you from even registering your username unless you pay $25k to be in the "verified" program. I'm mad they hold my name hostage, and I'm not ready to spend $25k

What do you mean with ”hostage”?

I mean my name isn't open (on Hub there is no user/edoceo page, but one cannot register that name either.

And they say they respect trademark and to open a ticket, no response.

But, I can join the verified publisher for only $25,000 USD.

Not literally hostage but still feels dirty to me.

Uh, I have a userpage: https://hub.docker.com/u/krainboltgreene

Yeah I have no idea what parent means. We have a company branded company namespace on dockerhub with just a dev account.

There is indeed this verified publisher program, which is crazily expensive and I'm not sure what benefits it offers, which is probably the whole explanation of why dockerhub is not in a very good place :)

I'm saying, my name is blocked unless I pay

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