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There's a difference between being anti-CCP and anti-China.

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Whether we like it or not, the CCP is an integral part of today's China, both the good and the bad.

Not in Taiwan!

Is Taiwan China though? (mostly non-rhetorical, honest question)

No, it is not.

The people of Taiwan don't want any part of CCP China, and in spite of a lot of noise about "One China Policy" the only people arguing right now for reunification are Xi and the cadres.

Uh, the government of Taiwan considers itself a successor of the Republic of China and claims the mainland, just as the PROC/CCP claim Taiwan.

If you are completely, militantly and with your entire being opposed to it, it is in fact still a part of you.

Chinese culture is older and broader than CCP's China†. E.g. here in San Francisco our Chinatown is older than the state of California‡.

† https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Chinese

‡ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinatown,_San_Francisco

Assuredly! I was careful to use the phrasing "is an integral part of", in acknowledgment that "China" is vaster/broader/older/etc.

So? Bolsonaro is an integral part of today's Brazil. Does that mean being anti-Bolsonaro equates to being anti-Brazil?

It's completely disingenuous to suggest that recognizing the horrors of an oppressive nation-state equates to some sort of bigotry against the country itself.

You will note that I suggest no such thing!

No difference really. Domestic approval ratings for the CCP are through the roof.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/23/913650298/as-u-s-views-of-chi...

Does that include Tibet, Xinjiang and Taiwan? They're 'Domestic' according to the CCP right?

The total population of those 3 regions amounts to 50 million, less than 4% of China.

And yet Xinjiang makes up for 20 % of arrests in the entire country.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/19/chinas-treatment-of...

Have you ever heard of the FBI crime statistics?

This just goes to prove that something about the politics in Xinjiang is not right.

Yeah I don't know how we could possibly validate that. It's similar to, but not the same as, measuring this in North Korea.

While I wouldn't rule out that this is true, it's difficult to trust numbers like that in China since people are so afraid to voice their true opinion. When I lived in China I learned that it was a basic rule of society that you do not express opinions about the government with anyone except for your closest friends, and even then it is extremely rare. It's no surprise that this is the case given historical events such as the hundred flowers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Flowers_Campaign

My experience is that they don't really think about it that hard because they don't have to. They've also seen their lives improve dramatically over the past 1.5 generations.

more likely, you were treated as foreigner that no one really wanted to talk about government when you were present.

Conflation? There is a very distinct difference.

1. China, as a nation consists of ALL the citizens of said nation.

2. CPP, only consists of ruling party.

The people's opinions don't matter as to their grouping. I can still be for one group and against another.

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