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Reminder that Sublime Text is constantly being improved and might be worth a look if you haven't tried it in a while ~ https://www.sublimetext.com/

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A big reason why I don't buy sublime despite buying other products I don't use much is that it is not open source. That is a big one for me because even if I wanted to inspect for telemetry or other things, I'm not trusted to do so.

Purchase it if that bugs you. Not everything is freeware.

How is purchasing going to make it open-source?

Unless the "it" there is Sublime HQ Pty Ltd. That'd get you the source.

The original comment was changed. Originally author was saying they hate the reminder in Sublime. In that case purchase a licease. The comment now says they want open source only.

indeed. sigh. i'll have to start quoting comments to retain context. it adds noise tho =/

On Mac, Panic’s Nova is starting to look pretty good. A native editor with a profit model of “you use it, you pay for it” is more attractive by the day.

Does sublime support editing remote projects over ssh?

Not well, that's the only time I use vscode (for everything else I use sublime or Pycharm if it's Python). I wanted to find a link for you to include in this post but searching "sublimetext ssh" etc didn't even bring up anything definitive, which kinda tells you how not great it is.

One option if it's just like 1 file at a time is to use WinSCP with Sublime as your default editor and just open the file, edit, close, but again, obviously not great.

Have you considered sshfs?

I haven't used it in years but I recall it mostly working.

That's not good enough, no remote debugging and shell integration. VSCode makes you feel like you're on the remote system locally.

But it mounts the remote fs as local. You should be able to debug locally and do whatever in the shell at it is a local mount, no?

> VSCode makes you feel like you're on the remote system locally.

In fact, you are. It runs the plugins on the remote system. Which, while nice for UX, made me upgrade my blog's droplet from 1GB to 2GB memory ($5/month -> $10/month). But I figured it's worth it because it lowers the barrier of entry to writing, and anything to make the process of writing as painless as possible is worth it (and I'm still publishing once/week so I guess it's paying off)....

Or Atom, which is free/open source: https://atom.io

I wish. Has bugs that make it unusable. (ie: read whole project depth tree on window open)

I thought Atom development was stopped? Guess I was mistaken.

but ultimately owned by the same company as VSCode

I still use Atom as my daily driver. There are bugs, yes. Some are more annoying than others (looking at you, TypeScript plugin). But I enjoy the app's experience more than VSCode. I wish I had time to contribute to it, because it's still a solid editor, and I hope it lives on a lot longer. Also surprised there hasn't been a popular hard fork of it yet since the acquisition of GitHub.

Serious question: Why does Atom still exist? On the front page they advertise something called "Atom Teletype" which seems like a ripoff of VS Live Share (or was it the other way around?)

Why aren't the Atom people working on VSC instead?

> Why aren't the Atom people working on VSC instead?

https://github.com/atom/atom/graphs/contributors

Looks like the original contributors have mostly moved on to other projects, and activity is significantly diminished, but it's an open source project and they've not gone out of their way to block the community from continuing.

Because more than one editor based off of Electron can exist and something doesn’t have to cease just because the sheep moved to the next field.

Why does Visual Studio still exist?

Why does Sublime Text still exist?

Why does Notepad++ still exist?

The question was asked because Atom doesn’t seem to see much development effort anymore, while the rest of the things you mentioned do.

So we should rid it from existence? Or is this a suggestion to delete the repository?

Does Atom exist if you never need it again or the project is never maintained?

I don't think we should get rid of Atom or anything like that, the point of my question is why the Atom contributors chose to not move on to VSC and continue to maintain Atom to the point of launching competing cloud options like Teletype. It's weird because both ventures are ultimately owned by Microsoft so it's confusing why they're paying two sets of developers to compete against each other.

Atom/GitHub wasn’t owned by Microsoft when Visual Studio Code gained traction. I’m guessing that the maintainers had no interest in giving Microsoft more help in reducing Atom to an unmaintained status and promoting Visual Studio Code for free. If the maintainers work for Microsoft now, I highly doubt it was ever a choice to move on. Teletype was probably in progress as well pre-acquisition, as that sort of feature came much much later in Visual Studio Codes development.

Vim and Emacs are open source, actively maintained, very capable programming editors.

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