Firefox vs. Brave: Which is the better browser for you? – Mozilla

You are a part of society. If something is bad for society, it will, in the long run, be bad for you.

Sure, if you regress once, it affects you. If you continue the regression analysis you'll quickly see that the ecosystem suffers if you don't participate and advocate for your preferred choice.

It's like buying on Amazon/Walmart while you see local stores shutting down when prices are more are less equivalent. Buy local if you want those stores sticking around.

Same dynamic in the browser market.

Brave isn't a competitor with Firefox. Firefox is a browser, Brave is a crypto wallet/ethical ad aggregator/adblock/DNS/video-calling system/compensation network/social/IPFS viewer. You're welcome to choose for yourself, but I typically grab Firefox when I just want to browse the web.

Is Brave really that much smaller than Firefox, these days? Firefox has lost a LOT of market share over the last 15 years of Mozilla basically running an "eat your vegetables" campaign for their primary product.

I came here to specifically comment on this. How is this even a feature? Is taking a screenshot still that difficult on Windows?

You had a bad experience or have a negative view of X, therefore everything associated with X is automatically bad?

Brave is a browser. You can use it as a Chrome replacement without Google stuff. Optionally, you can also enable the crypto stuff if you want to see ads and be paid a few bucks for that.

Brave Rewards for sites/creators... you don't have to claim the money (I do, eg: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27598202 ). Any manual or automatic donations are refunded if you don't claim the money (after 3 months, I think). They don't keep that money.

Some will say that blocking ads and then using Brave Ads is "blackmail". Well, the adblocking part isn't anything new. Firefox, Edge, Opera, and... Brave block ads by default. Users are already blocking ads, so I see this a different way to get revenue from users that block ads, but want to support me.

Now, the crypto currency itself. I don't care about it. I receive BAT, convert it to my local currency and then use it to pay for stuff. It's the same as receiving a payment in a different currency. Of course you can go on and play with crypto on some exchange, just like you can do the same with currencies that you trust, but that's unrelated to the browser and the cryptocurrency itself.

It may change in the future, but right now, I don't see any scam here.

(I use Firefox as my main browser and Brave as backup/when there's a compatibility issue.)

Crypto is more than cryptocurrencies, it's cryptography. Try doing online banking or shopping without it.

> Adblock Plus is owned by Eyeo GmbH which supposedly earns millions through it's 'acceptable ads' program.

That is not wild speculation but rather the official narrative from Adblock Plus. Their main revenue stream is the acceptable ads program [1]. In order to see if they make "millions", I am also linking their financial statements from the Company Register in Germany [2]. Please note that this document is in German and I read it using machine translation software.

[1] https://adblockplus.org/en/about#monetization

[2] https://www.unternehmensregister.de/ureg/result.html;jsessio...

I've given up on the built-in bookmarks in all browsers and even the New Tab page. I wrote up a single file HTML page and checked it into my dotfiles repos. Icons are short data urls of SVG with a hover drop down (like Reddit and various subreddits). I like that it's "self hosted" and not some 3rd party site.

I have hundreds of bookmarks, all neatly categorized, compared to the New Tab page's paltry 16 or whatever. I also get the exact same page in Firefox (personal), Chrome (work), or Firefox/Android.

It sounded silly at first but now I can't live without it.

I use https://www.raindrop.io

Pinboard is a good one. You can even upload PDFs etc and search the text within the PDF. Paid though. It's cheap.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinboard_(website)

Desktop site: https://pinboard.in/

Mobile site: https://m.pinboard.in/

iOS/iPadOS/macOS app: https://get-pins.app/

i use Raindrop.io Freemium, u have unlimited bookmarks, tag system, folder, notes, and simple search. With an affordable subscription, you have a nested folder hierarchy, and permanent cache of your bookmarked items

Well for one, it should save a snapshot at the page with each bookmark so that it will still be useful in the future when that site goes offline. Then add full text search through those snapshots.

None of the following stops me from using bookmarks on Firefox, but they're part of my list of Firefox annoyances:

- The bookmarks bar doesn't "fit" the current and previous two UIs. Margins/paddings are all wrong, at least on macOS. Why design a new UI if you're not going to apply it to everything?

- The bookmarks manager still opens on an old window, with small text, even though Firefox went the "Chrome way" and started using tabs, not windows for this type of content. Only recently this window started supporting dark mode.

- Bookmarks behave differently from other links. Eg: it doesn't respect the shortcut to open a link in the background.

- Bookmark icons are hard to update. While other browsers update the favicon when we visit the page, Firefox doesn't always do that. We need some hack or addon to force the browser to delete all favicons and then load each link so it gets the new favicon... why make it so hard?

- Not 100% related to bookmarks, but when opening a different bookmarks at once (eg: a folder), Firefox doesn't seem to prioritise the active tab. Chromium appears to be faster because of this.

I'm currently using Firefox, but I'll be honest: it's a mess of a browser. Old and new code, different philosophies, different UIs, all used side by side. Even more annoying is the fact that they ignore all this and use their limited resources on stuff that is mostly fine (eg: a new UI, a new search bar, etc).

Correction accepted. Throwing 1/3 of the population to the gutter seems in alignment with the American way. Assuming once again, you appear to disagree not with my principles, but with a numerical error. I guess it's standard collateral damage in the quest for easy money. I sometimes forget that this is praiseworthy to many here.