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Points for being a cross-platform Go-based UI toolkit.

But as a desktop environment, the design is far behind Apple, Gnome-shell, MS, even KDE.

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Weird this young project isn't as polished huge, mature and widely used projects.

More like there's obviously no designers on the team.

There's plenty of tech out there to build on. Ideas to build on. No Web toolkit is going to look like a website from 20 years ago... This is dead in the water unless they can show something that looks like it was made in 2021.

"It's shit" is not constructive feedback. As the parent commenter said, this is a relatively UI toolkit, and this desktop environment implementation is even younger. It takes time and effort to tweak things and there's no need to be hostile to new efforts. Especially when you consider that Qt, Windows, GNOME etc all have had years and years to tweak their design, and have also been redesigned.

The feedback is, 'do some proper UI design, because it really, really needs it'. That's constructive, as I read it, and very relevant.

I didn't say it's shit. The underlying technology is probably pretty nice, the fact it's done in Go and multi-platform is nice.

But they need to take some styling inspiration from, well, 2021. Even their icons on their website look old. That's a deal breaker for many. Why would you choose this over say, Flutter, when Flutter is also cross-platform and there's an obvious way to style Flutter apps? There's examples of good-looking Flutter apps...

But the website is not the toolkit. Yes the marketing needs work, but I would not judge the style of a toolkit based on it's homepage. The icons and design are based on Material Design which is really quite modern.

Why choose Fyne over Flutter? Mostly because it offers clear, easy to understand APIs instead of a glorified web UI. You pick Test Driven Development or Refresh Driven Design - people generally prefer one or the other ;)

It’s all gone downhill since Windows 2000, NeXt, Amiga.

> More like there's obviously no designers on the team.

Given what we've seen from modern "designers", I'm actually going to count that as a positive.

That's fine, but the top-most headline on the page says:

YOUR BEAUTIFUL NEW OPEN SOURCE DESKTOP

You're just doing yourself a disservice if you market yourself like that and can't deliver.

Be the change you wish to see in the world.

AFAIK, fyne is primarily a one man operation; I'm sure andrew would appreciate the help

We are really lucky to have lots of contributions - over 90 people have donated some amount of time. Also there have been nearly 10 core contributors who have put so much time and effort in. I am hugely indebted to them all. We rely on contributions and welcome every single new person to the team. We can mentor people new to Go or Fyne as well, if that helps.

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