Unhook: Hide YouTube Recommendations
chrome.google.com
chrome.google.com
https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%23%23%20twitter%20ublock&type... ("## twitter ublock")
https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/of5z86/cleany...
edit: And here's the YouTube version of that HN query -- there are several suggested ways to block YouTube Recommendations,
https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%23%23%20youtube%20ublock&type... ("## youtube ublock")
edit2: Here's a very satisfying generalized query ("## ## ublock" -- comments with two or more ##-syntax rules),
https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%23%23%20%23%23%20ublock&type=...
No ads, No notification pollution & recommendations require manual action(Separate tab).
However if you want to use it please avoid 0.14.0 since the upgrade to electron 14 was done poorly :S.
Use 0.13.x instead (latest 0.13: https://github.com/FreeTubeApp/FreeTube/releases/tag/v0.13.2...)
0.15.0 should be released in a week or two (I become part of dev team since I want a "create new window button")
Or you can use nightly build @ https://github.com/FreeTubeApp/FreeTube/actions/workflows/bu... (mostly stable just imperfect)
The electron upgrade is reverted and would be redone after 0.15.0 released. (https://github.com/FreeTubeApp/FreeTube/pull/1763 / https://github.com/FreeTubeApp/FreeTube/pull/1764)
[0] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/musi-simple-music-streaming/id...
The description doesn’t say this, and doesn’t mention how it’s funded (you say there are no ads)
Well, in your link it says:
> In-App Purchases
> 1. Remove Ads $5.99
Sometimes I'm watching a technical presentation/talk by someone and I'll get other talks of theirs on the recommended videos for that video page, which is useful, or followup videos on a topic.
What reasons for people that find this useful have to not wanting recommendations, either as a space to go to specifically to find something to watch or the section on the video page?
YouTube does great at recommending videos. I love it, personally. But I can totally respect the former position as well.
Also, some of the horrific clickbait thumbnails and titles it suggests annoys me. So avoiding those is one less thing to care about.
Also, much of the problems with yt isn't how they allow dangerous videos to be on their platform, but how they surface them to lots of people by recommending them. They do little harm unwatched.
I use a few custom uBlock Origin rules to hide the recommendations sidebar and the end-of-video overlay complete. If a video doesn't show up in my list of curated subscriptions, I just don't see it, and that's fine. It's good for my feed to be slow and update infrequently; I've got other stuff to do.
In addition to that, while my subscriptions does have some crap in it, it's also got quite a few math and science educators, as well as people doing visual essays. I'm also a sucker for educational crossed with pop-culture, so stuff from LegalEagle usually gets a watch and a like (and I'm subscribed) as well.
I agree is does seem to weight recommendations to much on what was recently watched sometimes, but I imagine that's so people that are in the rabbit hole can go deeper if they want. Unfortunately, it makes it hard to find something interesting for me on occasion when the last stuff I was watching is not what I'm in the mood for at all.
I treat YouTube like I do any other media source, like Netflix. I go to it and look for stuff to watch when that's what I actually want to do, so I don't generally mind watching a few things in a row. Often I'm doing it on my TV.
Only in this way have I managed to completely expunge all mention of J**dan P**erson from my yt recommends.
Completely!
That said, I also find them useful. But some people believe that it's better to seek out information for yourself even if being spoonfed is easier.
I mean, when I'm looking for something specific on YouTube from my desk, I agree. When I'm in bed watching it on my TV, not so much.
If Youtube ever gets rid of that Watch Later button I guess I'll have to push stuff I'm interested in into a list of bookmarks or a log file or something.
I keep reading this or equivalent opinions and am consequently annoyed and confused. On at least 50% occasions, the recommendations are either designed for the most capricious of olympic ADHD champions, or appear ingeniously tailored with zealous desire to insult my intelligence. And frequently when I'm scrolling through, eg layman-level physics lectures, I'll get Don't Talk to the Police, or Lizards of the deep state, or some circumstantially irrelevant garbage. This happens after removing cache, changing advertising ID, and other regular practices. However, it truly seems subject dependent; when researching fermentation, the suggested content tends to remain on subject, minus the inevitable guy ferments whale and tiger vs crocodile vs anaconda, uhh.. sauerkraut! 50TrillionViews stragglers. Somewhere along the way, I watched or clicked on something that must have biometrically branded me as a vagarious, insatiable idiot that despite searching very specifically for Cross Pollinating Chili Plants, really wanted to watch CGI snakes fight polar bears. They won't forgive me.
Definitely designed to keep one's eyes glued, but my reaction considers gluing them shut and hating myself for expressing fascination in so many things that I want nothing to do with.
Edit: I want to add a broiling chafe of mine. On rare occasion, I will view a video of an unfortunate event, something specific, bothersome. Every time, I see the Up Next video lubriciously lurking below, smart enough to detect tragedy, but sloppy enough to assume I'm watching what I'm watching for entertainment purpose and intend to merrily traipse on to the next disaster, or whatever. If I couldn't disable autoplay, I'd smash my device.
Recommendations that "the algorithm" provide to me are rarely good, but they are always distracting, and often click-baity. Instead, I come to YouTube to watch the channels I know I enjoy. The shortcut on my New Tab page directs me straight to my Subscriptions page, and that's where I stay.
Do I ever discover new channels? Sure! When a friend shares a video with me, or I stumble across a link on HN. :)
And it's fine, they need to make money, I just think they're optimizing for profit and not attention these days.
I know this is not mainstream view. Go and check anecdotally right now. It's worth running some experiments and seeing if the claim had veracity.
It's currently unsubstantiated but I believe it's verifiable since >0 ads monetize better than 0 ads.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/df-tube-distractio...
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/df-youtube/
There is another ad-on for youtube which I recently started using. It skips all the advertisement inside the video ( such as self promotion, product promotions, into/outro, sponsorships).
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-y...
The internet would be a better place with the ability to hide recommended feeds [1]. They can be useful sometimes, but mostly they're used to distract you from your goal. It's the digital equivalent of placing milk in the back of the grocery store. The ideal home page of a service to me is an empty page with a search bar.
[0] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/undistracted-hide-...
I watched an interview that Curtis Yarvin gave on Tucker Carlson (about an hour long...interesting at least).
Now youtube is sending me all these conservative "talk show" people that I have absolutely 0 interest in.
Same thing: I think I watched some video about guns a while ago. I think guns are neat, but I absolutely do not care about watching dozens of videos of bros broing down in the woods with the machine guns.
And what's worse is that it's the same set of ads. Like before I cancelled Hulu, they would show the exact same ad over and over again, just to make it as irritating as possible.
EDIT: Not leather belts though, nylon with magnetic buckles or something
Everyone who wants people to buy their leather belts advertises to people who have searched or previously looked for "leather belts" and that is you...
In a perverse way, it's actually good for you to keep getting belt ads. If you just stopped getting them all of a sudden I'd get worried because it means the purchase data of belts was sold and combined with your past search data to server you new ads in an even more devious way.
It would be smarter to look for pools of products and be less targetted. E.g. to know that people who buy long lived leather belts may also be interested in long-lived leather wallets, or long-lived shirts, or glass containers instead of plastic, etc, and then rotate all these products in, rather than this targetted barrage of non-stop belt ads for the next year. This just can't be the optimal advertising strategy, there must be diminishing returns to this level of specificity.
At the end of the day, advertising space is auction based and if the belt companies want to bid the highest for that space, they win.
If I bought a nice leather belt, perhaps I should get ads for nicer leather shoes or some other item, maybe a leather polish/waterproofing kit to keep my belt nice and new. The failure of the Advertising-Industrial complex in that regard has been disappointing to say the least.
i instinctively open everything else in incognito now. i have noticed less tracking, less ads, and a more pleasant browsing experience.
Every decade or so it needs a new strap. For a while, I was able to have one made by a young man at a leather shop in Camden ME - the old shop having disappeared from Harvard Square with the 70s.
Finally, the now old man in Camden retired and passed the business on to his son. The son doesn’t know how to work leather - he just brings in finished goods from offshore.
The current method is to find a belt in Camden that is sufficiently heavy and has a removable buckle. Throw away the trashy buckle and snap in my old one.
I’ve probably got one more strap in me.
You might find a suitable buckle at an Army-Navy store. If there still is such a place.
You have at least two straps in you! I believe in you :)
Take care.
Good denim can last years and degrades stylishly.
It's really too bad that there's a $825 Billion apparel industry that thrives on fads and replaceable goods.
On the topic of YouTube tunnels ... tool/appliance restoration videos are pretty cool. There's a ton of them too.
Hover your mouse over a recommendation you don't like, click the three dots that appear to the right of the title, click "Not interested". Results change very quickly.
Not like Google doesn't know exactly who I am anyway but I prefer not staying logged in.
I find I have the same issue on Spotify as well. I don't listen to Spotify a whole lot, but when I go to the gym I'll use it and listen workout style music. For me the stuff that gives me that energy and focus is often hip-hop/rap style music. But ironically it's probably my least favourite genre to listen to outside of the gym. But since at least half my time listening on Spotify is listening to that kind of music all my recommendations are terrible.
I really wish these services gave better options to manage your interests. I would love to just tell Spotify to just ignore certain genres from recommendations. Part of the problem is that I also suck at discovering music. So it would actually be beneficial to me to have better suggestions on what to listen to.
Which is sad considering how great youtube recommendations used to be around the time Stripe was launched. Remember when people used to go down the youtube rabbit hole to see where they'd end up? Now there is no breadth nor depth to the recommendations. Youtube used to be a vast ocean, now it's a puddle ankle deep and no more than a step wide.
Just make sure to hide the stuff you don’t want to see on your homepage. I go as far as removing dumb videos from my watch history (or watching them in incognito in the first place).
I find that most people who complain about the YouTube algorithm expect it to just work out of the box with zero tuning. It’s not that good and to be honest I personally don’t want it to be that good. But if you put in a LITTLE effort I promise you it’s an absolute recommendation beast. I have hundreds of hours of content in my watch later list just because of it. It’s all super high quality and I’m rarely disappointed hitting random videos in my homepage.
My youtube recommendations are incredible. I've spent a lot of time liking and subscribing to things that interest me, and now my feed is full of videos about history and trains and machining and woodworking and science and all kinds of stuff that I could watch for days.
A lesser issue is that if I don't watch the videos from a certain channel or genre for a while, the algorithm decides that I must have lost interest and stops recommending those content altogether when that's not really the case. And the "related videos" on the side bar never goes beyond a list of videos from the same channel.
Literally any time you see a video you don't like, do this. It only takes one or two "Not interested"'s to dramatically improve your feed.
Youtube eventually learned to stop showing it to me, and due to my downvotes, may be now restricting showing them to anyone.
youtube.com##.ytp-suggestions
youtube.com##.ytp-pause-overlay
youtube.com##.videowall-endscreen
youtube.com###related
youtube.com##ytd-commentsI tried to fix it, adding these to yours seems to work okay:
youtube.com###related:upward(#secondary)
youtube.com##:root:not(:fullscreen) video:matches-css(left: 0px):style(object-fit: fill!important; width: 100%!important; height: auto!important;)I've been using this for years to hide everything that's not video:
ytd-app #guide,
ytd-app #page-manager ytd-browse,
ytd-app #secondary,
ytd-app #comments {
display: none !important;
}
#hnmain .subtext {
visibility: hidden !important;
}
Source: https://www.phpied.com/defining-user-styles/Downloading everything is a PITA.
I highly, highly recommend it.
I've found YouTube much easier to consume as a result of this. It's not an endless binge anymore driven by an infinity feed.
That being said I use YouTube everyday and I'm an active content creator on the platform my self. I even have Premium.
The recommendations I get (next to a playing video) immediately after doing that are fantastic. It's like a time machine that takes you back to when their recommendations algorithm focused on recommending videos that are highly relevant to what you're currently watching.
When I hit an age gate and have to use it logged in, through firefox, the quality hit for the recommendations is immediately noticeable.
I was surprised that the difference is so apparent, and I've been spending more time on YouTube again as a result.
Unfortunately there's always (in my experience) at least one out of place recommendation, usually for something that's entirely unrelated but trending amongst the overall userbase.
If it were possible to remove just those random lures along with all live broadcasts the recommendations would likely be uniformly high quality.
Anyway, congrats on the extension. This seems especially helpful on mobile where Youtube seems to want to draw you away form the video you actually came to watch.
I feel like there is something I am missing in some settings somewhere, but I just don't know.
Interesting that feature is part of this nice.
You can enable/disable whatever you want. The point is to get rid of lame content.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sober-media/hfjclo...
Another recommended Youtube extension is : De-Mainstream YouTube [0]
[0] : https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/de-mainstream-yout...
The recommendations are there to distract you and I always regret clicking on them.
You have fine grain control over what gets hidden, including comments, suggested videos, the frontpage, playlist, infocards and so on.
It's not perfect, but what would be a good alternative for finding new channels that you would like? Do y'all have any suggestions?
I feel it suffers from "rich is getting richer" phenomena. Once the video start trending, the recommender starts showing it for any search.
I wish the recommendations went for the deep cuts instead of the pablum.
If i could group my channels and my watching pattern, it may alleviate my trepidation about confused algorithms.
I wonder what all the highly paid "ML/AI engineers" are doing.
Probably finding ways to automatically take down videos