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There were plenty of media outlets that doubted the WMD story. There’s no widespread collision between media and government.

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Nope. All the major outlets were pushing it. ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox. Also go find out how many representatives were for the war.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190823053520/https://www.cbsne...

296-133, 77-23

There's nothing shocking about that many representatives voting in favor of something that had over two thirds public support. In fact, it looks appropriate.

As for the media, the foreign and public press weren't so in favor. But I'll be the last to suggest that American media isn't terrible. It is.

Yeah, it's not as though there weren't protests against the invasion, and widespread media coverage thereof.

And all the protests accomplished jackshit. Can't you see that that is the point? Your opinion and protests have no effect. Your protests are just plausible deniability.

https://youtu.be/UqMaYuVvqGo

Weapons of mass destruction

LOL

The protests failed to invigorate change, not unlike anti mask protests today, because the message wasn't persuasive enough to sufficiently many people.

That's democracy. It's not great, but it's better than the alternatives.

Entrenched special interests driving policy is what the US is. Even an erstwhile democracy can fall into a stuck state.

Democracies can be perverted and also have a history of destroying themselves. See Greek history.

Still better than totalitarianism or fascism.

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