Regularly, on imgur, you see a pic in interest for a celebrity, a rich person, a movie. It looks organic, but if you look closely, there are plenty of weird things about it. Then it disappears as suddenly as it arrived.
I believe that they sell the front page to PR firms that need to promote something in a way the people think themself came up with the hype.
It's probably the same for a lot of communities with a strong influence on trends, like popular sub reddits or hacker news.
There is no better ads than the one you don't see. There is no better slogan than the one you repeat to your friends as a catchphrase. And there is no better propaganda than the one based on ideas you thought you had by yourself.
Besides, such company would do its best to stay discrete, by design.
That wrongly creates the impression that there are only a few HN users engaging with it.
A version of this: https://i.imgur.com/pgXjbNy.gifv
Both sites are quite "nerdy". Each in their own way.
7/7 would recommend
I remember going on the front page of Imgur once a couple of years back and it seemed less entertaining and more rage-baity than now -- think I'll revisit that decision...
It did ok on reddit (100 upvotes) but a few thousands upvotes on Imgur and made the front page with hundreds of thousands of views. I was shocked since I didn't even know that was a thing. But my guess is popular with people who are on their phone a lot, are not as tech saavy, or international.
Make no mistake, Imgur is a social network. It has its own memes, regular posting themes, and users recognised by the community[2].
[1]: They are (were?) proud of that and bragged about it in a page describing themselves.
[2]: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/anewbadlyphotoshoppedphotoofm...
Now pay.
Brilliant
I'm signing up.
"Where was I"
Maybe charge $1/month for MVP sarcasm.
Browsing imgz felt like watching a fun movie, I love the architecture too ( ... we dont have this...LOL )
BTW, I am (Maybe I should say WE are) also building a image hosting service. https://host.pics (Pre-Alpha)
Oh Em Eff Gee xD xD xD
You weren't kidding. Amazing.
> If you're expecting professionalism, call Oracle and ask for a quote of Oracle Advanced Image Sharing for Hadoop or whatever crap they sell
If I end up stealing your style for something, I owe you a beer.
Lol! Haven't used the service, but the website is fun.
That architecture.
https://imgz.org/i9hxfgRu-1280.png
Cloudflare Free Caching, T2, the only thing we have and it is not even on AWS.
The plugins and the web-site are also crazy as shit! Take a look:
Love stuff like that. Thanks again for making me smile. I appreciate that.
The domain is there, but it just says "ImageHost.org is closed" with a Google Analytics tag.
Image hosting is relatively cheap, so you can have good margins if you can get a lot of use and fill the ad inventory. The way you do it, is by running as thin of an operation as possible.
When the first wave of one-click image hosts were popping up back in 2004-2005 roughly, I noticed one called ImageVenue. The founder, Vlad, was out of Eastern Europe somewhere. I emailed him and bought advertising, the price was right and he had a lot of impressions to fill. Back then he was just buying tons of $40/month dedicated servers from one specific host, using a img7.imagevenue.com scheme for each machine, and filling up the boxes. You can still use ImageVenue.com 17 years later, even though the traffic for the service has never been what it was during the early peak years (tons of image hosting competition swamped the market). I had a running dialogue with Vlad across about a year, he also mentioned in discussing Ajax (early popularity days for Ajax) use at the time, that he wasn't familiar with it and was "only really good with C++ and PHP". So I assume some of it was built in PHP. He was managing ads in-house, where he handled each sale by email, negotiating impressions and duration each month.
And regarding TwitPic, circa 2010: "TwitPic is generating $1.5 to $2 million in ad sales on an annual basis, with 70% profit margins, says its founder Noah Everett"
Long story long, I basically ended up giving Twitpic to Twitter (I wanted the photos to live on). We were already feeling the squeeze from their own native image feature plus some other compounding events like Google Adsense banning us out-of-the-blue with no recourse that really affected our margins [Hey Google, you still owe us $100k+ ;)].
It was one of the best, most educating times of my life. Just thankful I had that opportunity to run Twitpic for those years, God blessed me.
The End.
P.S. I'm still tinkering https://ark.fm
Disclaimer: Hopefully I'm remembering correctly, it's been a while!
I seriously doubt their community can sustain the costs of the service. In fact, the quality of imgur's service has declined in an effort to make profit. For instance, all images are compressed now. That used to not be true.
Most platforms you are using today cannot survive without ad's, because their business model is not one that can make a profit without a monopoly first.
i notice youre using cloudflare to deliver the files on the download side, and im guessing you are taking advantage of bandwidth alliance so ingress/egress are basically free - i always thought the biggest cost for something like this would be the storage, eg if you are letting people send unlimited <5GB files for free, and each of those last for 10 days on what im assuming is some kind of object storage/s3-like thing, surely you are paying a fortune in $/GB/month, even if its pro-rated to 1/3 the amount since the files only live 1/3 a month?
First off there is tax compliance, if you want to be global it will cost a lot for accountants and lawyers that understand how this should work "anywhere" in the world.
Second, I know some people that will just cancel credit cards because they don't want to make the next recurring payment for a service. Coming after these people is not worth the effort but hurts the bottom line.
Third, you need to hire employees to look after customer accounts and billing if there are any questions.
I think there's other reasons and I know payment processors like Stripe and Square are attempting to make this seamless, but I'm guessing a single source of funding is still desirable.
I guess the videos are much more high resolution now than the webcam size 320x240 videos back then but has cost gone up that much?
Image file sizes increasing dramatically as smartphones started producing photo sizes that would have been considered massive 15 years ago, saturated much of the gains in cost to hardware.
It's easier to run a one-click image host (like the early Imgur) as a solo operator today versus back then. It's not much cheaper when you account for the larger image files (unless you severely limit the file size, which won't be a popular choice with users, most of which just blast four billion smartphone photos, don't think much about image sizes, and want to upload them as is without thinking about any of that).
The big ad platforms like Facebook and Google have thrived, of course. And as platforms like Snapchat have aged they've gradually improved the rates they're getting for their ad space (a typical process).
The scale of online advertising today isn't because the industry's median or average CPMs went up 100 fold. The volume went up dramatically over the last 10-15 years with the traffic for the big services. The big advertisers brought billion dollar ad budgets online and handed them to Facebook, not to one-click image hosts.
Your typical one-click image host is not going to command better ad rates today vs 15 years ago. It's a worse context than it was back then, actually. Back then advertisers were relatively stupid when it came to online advertising, today they're a lot more sophisticated, and a lot more strict about where they place ads (eg porn on one-click image hosts is a big problem for advertisers). The big, rich platforms like Facebook eat a large share of the high paying advertising. What's left for something like a one-click image host, is very, very low paying ads that you have to run a trillion of to make money.
Ads cost a lot more. People who rent space get a lot less.
That’s quite a difference.
[1]: https://www.fastly.com/pricing/ [2]: https://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/?nc1=h_ls
Scaleway, OVH will get you that, but at a larger scale just rent bare metal.