New work sheds light on the Etruscans, who may have founded Rome
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There’s a lot of prehistory that is not well understood.
The main thing is that there's a lot of prehistory. The Stone Age was 3 million years long; people have been cooking their food for 1.75 million years; anatomically modern humans are 250,000 years old; behavioral modernity (elaborate graves, fishing, artifact diversity, common figurative art) is from 50,000 years ago, or perhaps as long as 80,000; the first proto-cities like Çatal Höyük date from 10,000 years ago; the city of Eridu is from 7500 years ago.
In places, "history" (in the sense of written records) is only 500 years old; in most of Europe it's less than 2000 years old. Imhotep built the first Egyptian pyramid only 4700 years ago, but in his day, people had already had brains pretty much the same as our own for ten times that long. 90% of the time of people painting pictures and burying their dead happened before Imhotep; half of the time of people living in cities happened before Imhotep. And 99% of the time of people with brains pretty much the same as our own was before Columbus.
That is, the founding of proto-cities like Çatal Höyük was as long ago for Imhotep as Imhotep is for us. But Imhotep didn't have writings from Çatal Höyük to read or archaeologists to investigate it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boncuklu_Tarla
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/culture/archaeologists-unearth-anci...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=chpT0TzietQ
It goes into a lot of these evolutionary stages.
And the history of W:
Oh, not that C?
It was originally a gamma ("G" sound), but the Etruscan language did not need it and they just used it as K.
Then the Romans adopted the Etruscan alphabet, but they _did_ have both K and G sounds and so had to invent a new letter, even tho the original greek alphabet (and all its predecessors) already had it to begin with :)
In Germanic this morphed into "Kaiser", which is the german word for "Emperor". I find it quite interesting how the status and power of this one man was so widely recognized, that his surname was already used during Roman times (and still is in the German language) as a title for someone holding utmost power. Originally, the name Caesar likely just meant "a hairy person".
It seems overwhelmingly likely that when later emperors kept using it, they were referencing the dynasty that Augustus founded, not Julius Caesar personally.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_(title)#Sole_Roman_Empe...
So I can think of Rome more like a colony that took over the mother city-kingdom first, then the whole peninsula.
Moreover, the names of the first traditional kings of Rome are Etruscans too.
I'm really curious if there were positive "network effects" of increasingly large populations of neighbors speaking compatible languages (even if they formed a gradient as the Romance languages did from Rome to Portugal and northern France) Otherwise, it would make more sense for a successful prosperous culture to keep their own language and it would not be surprising at all.
The original question in this thread was: why was PIE culture so successful that it supplanted almost all existing PRE-indo-eurpean languages. Vascon and Etruscan survived (and possibly others), the former evolving into modern Basque, and Etruscan slowly dying out (very likely by the end of first century AD there were no more etruscan speakers)
"pressure from the steppe selected for the unification and scaling-up of agricultural societies into larger groups to more effectively counteract these incursions. This in turn would select for greater size in pastoralist communities, and also other neighbouring agricultural groups who were now relatively smaller and at a competitive disadvantage with their neighbours. This effect would be amplified by the diffusion of such military technology from the steppe"
From this awesome modeling paper https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-020-0516-2
How about Finno-Ugric? While the Hungarians only arrived about 1000 years ago, the ancestors of the Finns, Sami and related groups have lived in North-East Europe possibly since the last Ice Age (although this is much disputed, and it could be they adopted Proto-Finnic from some later migration).
However, as the article mentions, it's unwise to assume there is a 100% correlation between genetic markers and culture/language. The Baltic Sea region has been a trade hub since before the the first indo-european migrations into the area, and some genetic mixing must have been unavoidable.
The fact Etruscans preserved their language could be either because they fought really well or may be had some diplomatic relations and mutual trade with the “migrants”, or both.
It’s funny we have the names of say Alexander the Great or Genghis but leaders of those long gone civilizations before them are completely unknown. May be they intermarried and the steppe people’ benevolent leader allowed some of the conquered tribes to keep their language, who knows.
There are so many interesting details that can give more depth to the struggle of human existence; migration, ingenuity, cooperation, dominance, trade, war, culture, religion.
Reducing everything to a couple of famous names is an unfortunate oversimplification that glosses over much more interesting aspects I wholeheartedly recommend to research.
Language domination tends to stem from conquest and/or domination of the population or flatout genocide. Also, if the established elites speak it, the population will most likely follow. The spread of PIE probably mimicked the spread of european languages around the world.
Why is english spoken in us, canada, australia, nz, etc? Why is spanish spoken in much of the americas. Why is english, german, portuguese, french, etc spoken all over africa? Conquest, genocide, mass rapes, etc.
The real question is what technology/tool/etc gave the PIE speakers an advantage over speakers of non-PIE languages ( semitic, basque, etc.). Also how were central asians, east asians, southeast asians, etc able to withstand the PIE onslaught.
The Etruscans laid the first underground sewers in the city of Rome around 500 BC. These cavernous tunnels below the city's streets were built of finely carved stones, and the Romans were happy to utilize them when they took over the city.
[https://phys.org/news/2015-11-toilets-sewers-ancient-roman-s...]
Everyone forgets about the Samnites, who required Rome to fight 70 years before getting rid of them!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassoferrato
I think that all was found there comes not from Etruscan settlements, but rather from the battlefield: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sentinum or from the umbri and sanniti, or from the later romans, etruscans were reknown and appreciated for their art, particularly ceramics, even in those times.
Etruscans cities were in central western Italy, mainly Tuscany, and Lazio with extensions to the north (Emilia Romagna and Veneto) and to the south (Campania):
https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etruschi#/media/File:Etruscan_...
Disclaimer:
the founder of the museum of Sassoferrato:
https://www.sassoferratoturismo.it/museo-civico-archeologico...
was my grandfather, and all I know about the matter comes from family stories.
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Can blame the Etruscans for IEEE 754
I have always loved it for its alien sound, and then later for its meaning.