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Plenty of brown rice, soy, nuts, beans etc for people to stop eating meat altogether if they actually needed more protein (they probably don't). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe we should direct funds towards advertising meat-free and the benefits of not consuming carcinogenic meat instead of all of this meat replacement. [1]

[1] https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/2015/11/03/repo...

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You can eat all the inferior substitutes, I'll stick to grass fed beef every day. There's no replacement for animal protein, it's the healthiest thing you can eat. Meat is well known to increase testosterone levels, promoting all sorts of beneficial effects on your metabolism and mental well being.

Ah yes, most people's testosterone levels would be too low without meat. lol

Regular exercise should help with metabolism and just about everything else you could imagine.

> it's the healthiest thing you can eat

So do you also believe that cholesterol is good for you?

I wouldn't say eating meat is the healthiest thing you can eat.

It seems like most people need fiber for a diverse and resilient gut biome.

But the dangers of cholesterol are largely overblown.

Sugar, oxidation, insulin levels, and stress play a far more pervasive roles.

Statins are largely ineffective for preventing heart disease except for a small percentage of older white males.

There's also a low causal relationship between dietary cholesterol and the cholesterol found in your blood.

And most cholesterol in the human body is produced in the liver.

The biomechanics of the body are complex and difficult, but one underrated aspect of being able to produce meat in a lab is you would be able to repurpose that technology to produce human organs for people who need new kidneys, livers, hearts, lungs, etc.

It's a very valuable technology, even if you're not interested in eating it.

Do you have a source on the testosterone?

The obesity is most likely offsetting that though

The problem with all non-animal sources of protein is their ratio of protein to carb+fat. I eat ~.8gr of protein per lb of body weight per day to maintain my muscle mass. If I had to get that protein from non-animal sources, I'd be way over my total daily calorie intake.

There are plenty of vegan athletes, and even vegan power lifters [0]. It’s totally possible to eat a plant based diet and have a lot of muscle mass.

[0[ https://www.greatveganathletes.com/category/vegan-powerlifte...

Possible? Yes. More work? Also yes.

You have to eat way more tofu, beans, eggs, etc. to get the equivalent amount of protein in chicken, steak, pork, etc.

Tablespoon of peanut butter really isn't any more work. It's probably less.

> How many beans equal a serving of meat?

> In general, 1 ounce of meat, poultry or fish, ¼ cup cooked beans, 1 egg, 1 tablespoon of peanut butter, or ½ ounce of nuts or seeds can be considered as 1 ounce-equivalent from the Protein Foods Group.[1]

[1] https://www.myplate.gov/eat-healthy/protein-foods

Most people I know that eat 0.8g protein per lb of body mass use protein supplements to achieve such a high protein intake.

That amount of protein is entirely, totally unnecessary.

What are your qualifications for making such a statement? Do you have any sources to back that up?

No one is forcing you to eat meat. Don't force your views on others and we can all live in peace.

The advertising you're talking about is already happening at the grassroots level. You're part of it. I hope it works.

Personally I eat as much rice and beans as polite company will tolerate. Alas, I hit the wall pretty fast.

The more you eat beans the more your gut flora adjusts to it. Stereotypical bean eating families like Mexicans and Indians are not full of farts.

>are not full of farts.

Naturally - it'd be infeasible to hold them all in.

As a vegan Hindu it makes me sick thinking about making a food have the taste and texture of a dead animal. But I do understand the desire to keep eating what is familiar

The other day I decided to try a beyond burger for a change. I had to throw it away because I could not eat it, because eating something even close to meat was unappetizing.

ahhh comeee onnn i'm about to make one of these for dinner since blue apron veggie plan has em. I was hoping it'd be good

i believe the implication here is they are too good for a non-meat-eater

lol thanks. I read that totally backwards, and after having that burger tonight i concur with the commenter. They're pretty damn good, I'd happily eat another

This was said as a current meat eater, but if I keep down this recent ethical veganism youtube rabbit hole i might not be that much longer

I’m confirming that I could not eat a beyond burger because the burger was too close to the taste of real meat and my tastes have drifted.

Can I ask, what tastes better to you a beyond burger of a beef burger?

Beef, but they're pretty similar. Maybe someone could fool me with one if I didn't know

I think it's hard for me to say exactly without a side by side comparison, partially because this one had different toppings than my normal burgers do, but it seems fairly comparable in flavor and I would buy these again. I've also had an impossible burger a few years back at a nicer restaurant and that was good too.

I think both are to the point that if I didn't know what I was eating and didn't deeply try to analyze and compare, I could eat one without any idea that it's not meat.

I'm now somewhat interested the next time I see my family to see if I can pull off a ruse of making burgers for dinner from these and see if anyone even notices, particularly my brother who would say there's no way you could trick him XD

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