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Secrets imply deception.

If I don't publish my private SSH keys for all to see, am I being deceptive? No, I am protecting my interests. While I do prefer to know when Apple is acting in bad faith, this blanket statement is a weird one to make.

Sometimes secrets imply protecting IP and nothing nefarious.

Does the same principle apply to us when we want privacy from Apple?

Yes, as for oppressive government around the world would consider deceptive the work of an activist, see united states' and WikiLeaks

Don't know if you're in the US but if so, I'll remind you that we have multiple constitutional amendments that protect your right to keep secrets. But if you find those amendments to be unethical, I sincerely wish you the best of luck in your next encounter with the police.

No they don't. This is a very dangerous mentality at the root of a lot of evil done throughout the world.

Do you believe the hunt for leakers within Apple should be secret?

If secrets don't imply deception, that that seems to me like saying knowledge is useless.

All truths or falsehoods are within some context and cannot be divorced from context.

What does this have to do with "danger" or "evil"?

No it's not. For example almost everyone has curtains. Do you think everyone that closes their curtains is deceiving someone? Of course not. There are many reasons to keep something private, one of them beeing deception. But it's far from the only one.

"Of course not" because probably nobody is interested in looking in.

That seems like a trivial point to me, though.

As soon as somebody nosy is interested, then there is a purpose of deception.

No it isn't the purpose doesn't change depending on external factors. The purpose is privacy, that is not deception.

We got John F Kennedy over here

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