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Apple's private relay service does not sit still

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It’ll be interesting if Cloudflare or someone else can release numbers on how many hits they’re getting from Private Relay. I’ve always been curious how many people pay the $2 per month for iCloud.

iCloud backup alone is worth it. If you have nightly backups and lose your phone you can just buy a new one and restore.

and give law enforcement full access to unencrypted messages woohoo!

So it's basically the same as other commonly used messaging services such as email, Facebook Messenger, and Telegram (outside of Secret Chats)?

FB Messenger and WhatsApp are end-to-end encrypted by default

I'm quite sure that FB Messenger is not. They do have an option for secret chats but it is not the default and quite awkward to use (1 device and only mobile last time I used it)

You can choose whether or not to back up messages.

And if you dont use icloud backup the judge is going to deny the prosecution access to your devices?

No, but they will have an awful time trying to get into them of course.

FWIW, I’ve paid for iCloud for years, no intention to turn the private relay on. That said, if Apple defaults it to on then probably 95% or more of users will leave it enabled.

Why not turn it on?

Don’t feel like sending traffic through Apple or having a potential speed slowdown or technical issue by adding more hops to my requests. I don’t care about my own privacy or about government surveillance of myself.

>I don’t care about my own privacy or about government surveillance of myself.

Please post your phone number, bank account name/PIN and home address.

I need them for... reasons.

Haha :-) My home address has been listed in WHOIS for years and it’s never been a problem for me, I give my phone number out to any company that interacts with me and asks for it. When I grew up we always got paper phone books and you could look up anyone’s number, it wasn’t a problem.

Bank account PIN… That actually needs to be secure, but it goes over HTTPS, I don’t need a VPN on top of it. If the Govt wants the cash in my bank they’ll just tell the bank and take it all, without my PIN anyway.

I don’t see my IP address changing that fast using various what’s my ip services.

It did change when I toggled back and forth between the two IP location settings.

is it supposed to safeguard against dns leaks? in my cursory tests, it looks like it doesn’t

Just another reason most websites are going to stick to ipv4.

Is it any better for site tracking to have 1000 users show as the same v4 address or have 1000 users jump around the same v6b block?

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