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And then proceeds to replace tenure track teaching positions with adjuncts paid poverty-level wages.

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It depends on the field.

Center for Latin American Studies Director is around $210K - Carlos De La Torre Espinosa.

Others make a lot more - would be curious if this includes some type of payout that is not standard

UF DAVID NELSON PROFESSOR $957,900.00 UF BRIAN HOH PROFESSOR $942,946.10 UF LEON HALEY PROFESSOR $874,750.00 UCF DEBORAH GERMAN PROFESSOR $850,000.00 UF THIAGO BEDUSCHI PROFESSOR $830,000.00 UF MARK SCARBOROUGH PROFESSOR $812,528.74 UF TOMAS MARTIN PROFESSOR $801,940.00 UF GILES PEEK PROFESSOR $781,740.00 UF PHILIPP ALDANA PROFESSOR $750,236.01 UF WESLEY FUCHS PROFESSOR $731,587.09 UF THOMAS BEAVER PROFESSOR $705,956.38 UF PAUL DOUGHERTY PROFESSOR $702,960.00

Those are mostly doctors. Any school with a decent med school will have top earners like this.

Yes and they should get paid that much. When I went to school at University of California we would look up the salaries of our teachers. Most of the highest paid people were football coaches. But a few doctors making around 1.5 million. Looked the person up they invented a way to do liver transplants. They have done over 800 transplants over there career at the school. They also taught how to do the surgery. That is money well spent.

Other than Fuchs (who is the current UF president), everyone you listed is a MD.

All those salaries put together are only about 50% more than what UF pays the football head coach alone. ($7.6mm)

Their football program makes more than double the profit of Gatorade royalties, though.

Isn't it kind of weird that we need to sell "juice rights" in order to fund education?

You prefer the European model, where, instead of universities directly seeing where their money comes from, it’s instead laundried through the government, which collects the taxes from juice makers, construction workers, night clubs, and booze sales, then commingles everything together and gives it to universities, so that they don’t see how their bread is being buttered, and can keep pretending it’s pure and untainted by real world considerations?

Either way, unless you eliminate government subsidies, education is paid for by getting a cut on the productive industries. I in fact prefer the UF getting royalties from juice, because at least they earned it.

And it provides a clearer feedback mechanism. Maybe give promotions / tenure to the juice inventors (in this case, Robert Cade's team)?

The existence of highly-paid tenure track faculty does not change the fact that too many classrooms are led by adjuncts who could make more at McDonald's than they do teaching.

Your argument is akin to saying that poverty isn't an issue in the U.S. because Bill Gates.

Can't speak for your alma mater (or am I??), but during my time at UF, adjuncts in engineering simply weren't a thing; never took a course taught by one for anything lower division either...YMMV, I suppose.

Somewhere in between, full-time lecturers (called "instructional professors" these days?) were and still are exceedingly rare (albeit probably safe to assert all ECE alumni of roughly the past 2 decades were Schwartz'd and/or Gugel'd in some capacity).

Must've been a long time ago because now there's an army of non-tenure faculty teaching classes for every engineering department and in CISE. Whether they get paid less than they would at McDonald's is another matter but without a doubt they are a cost cutting measure (along with online classes and various other edtech BS like proctoring services).

>instructional professor

The fancy/official term for this is usually Lecturer. It’s a permanent position that’s usually not equal to professor in power and prestige, but it’s permanent, the pay can be good and you don’t have any expectation of research.

Graduate students and adjunct professors have largely taken over this responsibility because they are much cheaper.

> The fancy/official term for this is usually Lecturer.

Not sure about that[1], but acknowledged.

Graduate TAs were par for any course with a lab component or recitation, even courses that were taught by a lecturer; never felt like I was somehow being shorted opportunity in those though. It's the infamous adjunct part that my experience draws a blank on.

[1] https://fora.aa.ufl.edu/docs/10/2019-2020/Faculty%20Senate%2...

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