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Does Telegram have E2EE on phone ONLY still?

No, you can E2EE on all clients. But Secret Chats are always a 1:1 session between devices. You can't start a Secret Chat on one device and continue on another.

This might seem like an inconvenience but it avoids the pitfall leading to the recent Matrix exploits...

Not sure that the solution to the risk of a bug in encrypted group chats is to mandate that group chats are unencrypted… Plus the Matrix bug was effectively a theoretical vulnerability rather than something actually being exploited.

Telegram could support group chats that are encrypted, only that you can only be in that group chat from one device. I would greatly prefer that solution. Wouldn't you?

https://tsf.telegram.org/manuals/e2ee-simple#2-why-are-there...

It literally is "Why are there no Secret Chats on desktop apps?".

They seem to provide a couple of reasons, so it seems like it is not going to be a thing?

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