I would much rather that every dose going un-used somehow find it's way into the arm of someone in the world that would take it and get us that much closer to stopping variants and achieving herd immunity, but that's not the world we live in. Instead doses are being thrown away, and enough people with access to the vaccine are instead insisting on dragging this pandemic out. So I'll take every defense available to me, and all the benefits it incurs to those around me, and not apologize for it (yes, I still wear a mask indoors even after 4 rounds.)
Edit: corrected March to February.
Why would you take a second Moderna?
The second dose is for people who had one. If third shots are being offered you don't take a second dose a few weeks later.
Going? Gone.
Why would you take a second Moderna?
I initially thought about treating the Moderna round 1 as a booster to my 2 rounds of Pfizer. But the first time I posted from this account (I never should have used my real name for my primary account, too many crazies) it was to comment on a story about studies that Pfizer is less effective than Moderna vs Delta, that was 38 days ago. Now this discussion is coming from a story about hospitalizations rates for Pfizer vs Moderna. As the science regarding this pandemic changes my risk tolerance for myself and those for whom I'm responsible will change too. Right now "over vaccinated" isn't even a concept, if that changes I'll accept the consequences of my actions.
Just saw a headline about this — it is.
Wasn't expecting that... or was that because of the carefully asked and answered question about previously having had moderna, and not mentioning the previous pfizer?
was that because of the carefully asked and answered question about previously having had moderna, and not mentioning the previous pfizer?
Nope. I'm not going to bullshit anyone here, if I had been asked if I was already vaccinated I would have lied (BUT NOT IF THE DOSES COULD HAVE BEEN REDIRECTED, I never would have requested the Moderna round if doses weren't sitting unused.)
Only thing to worry about/watch for is immune response and toxicity.
Not weird science class volcano coming from his mouth.
It did make me wonder why Merkel went with Moderna instead of BioNTech. I would assume she could have easily chosen either. Perhaps because Moderna was thought to be more potent by the June timeframe.
But as you say presumably one can go someplace that has no record of them and get a “first” shot of something else.
Ya know, I keep hearing this, but no one ever seems to quote any actual statistics of the practice happening. Even the big Rolling Stone article that half the media quoted and went viral regarding the Oklahoma ERs having a rash of veterinary ivermectin ODs was complete BS. Some other article I read quoted about a “rash” of calls about horse ivermectin to poison control, which buried a few paragraphs in the article turned out to be like 4-5 calls total and pretty much all were just general calls inquiring if it was dangerous.
So while I am sure there are some people taking it, I imagine it’s about as prevalent a practice as the “some people took fish tank cleaner” last year…which turns out apparently the only actual case was just some crazy lady trying to kill her husband.
But hey I’m open to real evidence of the practice if someone can find some actual data and post it. Until then I chalk this up as rumor and assumption.
There no irony here. It's just bad business for the ruling class if the proletariat that works for them and is the pillar of their wealth, dies off.
If there's no one left to grow and harvest your food, maintain water and energy infrastructure, then it doesn't matter how much cash, stocks, how many jets, yachts and McMansions you own.
I guess that's why insulin rationing is a thing?
I know plenty of rich people that got their shots really early. They didn’t do that using money; they used their creativity. They printed up a fake letterhead for a non-existent medical company and just went for it.
That attitude of ‘just go for it’ has a propensity to make people rich as well.
Also, since you believe the vaccines are valuable (otherwise you wouldn’t want a third), how do you deal with the thought that most of the world hasn't had an opportunity to get a first shot?