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I've never had a manager who "owned" anything, let alone to an "extreme" degree. It's ICs who are responsible for shipping quality work on time, sometimes at the expense of their health and personal lives. And it's ICs who take the heat when projects go off-track.

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That sucks if that’s your reality. It means you’ve never had a manager that protects their team and sets them up for success.

If my teams are struggling it’s my fault in the eyes of external stakeholders and I own that. If my direct reports cause an issue I expect them to fix it, but that isn’t used as a reason for the failure outside the team.

I've had a couple who came very close, circumstance and the usual bureaucracy precluded their ownership reaching the top of the 'extreme' spectrum.

Give them credit for even doing as much as they did, to be honest.

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