Justin Trudeau Vows Two-Year Ban on Foreign Home Buyers in Canada Election
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[1] https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11-626-x/11-626-x2017078...
Meanwhile, https://www.worksinprogress.co/issue/the-housing-theory-of-e...
but that's fine right? The people rich people moving into the "luxury" apartments will free up the "nice" apartments for middle class people to move into, who will subsequently free up the "okay" apartments. Building $30k cars also doesn't help the college student/single parent who has a budget of <$3000, yet we don't try to outlaw those cars or mandate "affordable" cars because "people who don't want that luxury will end up stretching their budgets to buy it due to a lack of options in their price range".
This is absolutely not true. Canadian policymakers are willing to do almost nothing that could reduce housing prices– instead they try to induce prospective buyers to take on even more debt under the guise of "making housing affordable". Just look at every major party's housing platform in the current election– besides some very hand-wavy notions of bringing on more supply, and the LPC's plan to eliminate blind bidding, the "solutions" are almost universally focused on further stoking demand
Same thing for appropriately taxing seniors living in now multi-million dollar hovels.
Having foreign buyers buy very so-so, if not shitty for the price houses with 20% 30% premiums is a story which many realtors in Vancouver can talk about.
Although, I admit, the root cause is still the understudy of housing in big, fast growing cities.
Assuming they don’t work around it through straw purchasers…
So a key part of the picture this kind of argument misses out is that price appreciation is primarily an effect of *marginal* demand and supply, not inventory. To put it another way as long as there's even a little bit of demand exceeding supply, prices will go up till sufficient marginal buyers drop out of the market. A very small imbalance is enough to push prices up. To begin appreciating how and why this happens, you may want to analyze a granular item level time series dataset of a market or auction (I once looked deep into a course auction at my alma matter) - it's quite eye opening.
In this case, there's presumably fairly price in-elastic foreign buyers and/or corporate structures like REITs buying into the residential buying market. Note that at any time, the entire market is never at play as most families wouldn't want to sell and move or change their lives - personal risk plays a factor - if we sell now & prices keep rising, how will we afford a house in the future etc. So prices keep rising.
Note that interestingly housing market is asymmetric in the sense that prices don't fall quite as much when marginal supply out-strips demand. Potential sellers who occupy their own houses generally prefer to stay in their homes and simply go out of the market. That's why prices drop in a big way only during major economic crises when people lose jobs, are unable to fund their mortgage and are forced to sell or let the banks foreclose.
In terms of fixes, creating additional supply by easing restrictions will definitely help. An additional way would be to disallow or disincentivize non-resident ownership. Eg. By banning price inelastic absentee overseas owners and investment companies from residential properties, taxing second and third home purchases by individuals with high duties etc but the key thing is to codify regulation at the "intent" level rather than at execution level so parties exploiting loopholes can be prosecuted and enforcing them.
Our housing prices are wildly high, partially or even significantly, because of very wealthy foreign purchasers who often don't even live in the homes they buy. They jack the price up and sell them to other very wealthy people from their respective home countries. Rinse and repeat. It affects the prices of homes all around the property in tandem.
Basically those wealthy people who aren't contributing to the economy outside the house they bought, are making housing outrageously expensive for the people who do live here, because regular people can't financially compete with the wealthy purchasers that see the home as nothing more than a money maker to trade in overseas properties stacking.
It certainly couldn't be driven up by the fact that if you ask virtually any person under 40 if they will purchase a home once they can afford one they will say yes.
If only there was a way you could put more than one home on a single lot so you could actually meet demand without building $300m apartment buildings.
> Nice, this will curb the unacceptably high 4% of home buyers who are foreign who are definitely responsible for driving the market prices up.
These 4% are driving up prices of the most elite real estate, and crowding out rich elite upper-middle-class Canadians, who invest in real estate, and live in big cities (read Toronto, and Vancouver.) That's the real problem for them.
So, these unacceptably high 4% is mostly visible on West Georgia, and Cambie, and then DT Vancouver, and Toronto.
Most people unhappy about it are rich recent immigrants wanting to buy a house themselves. Please make a distinction in between migrants with Canadian passport, or PR, and foreign buyers without any relationship to the country.
https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=653...
But just because foreign ownership is only 4% doesn't mean it can't have a sizable impact on home prices. Prices are always set at the margins, and since foreign ownership, especially in Vancouver, is really treated as a "safe place for cash" from foreign buyers, it can cause prices that are out of whack with the intended purpose of a home as being place to live.
Also, when your primary use of a house is simply a store of value to park your cash, you're likely going to want to put it into areas that are already supply constrained, because that means the risk of prices falling is lower.
> you're likely going to want to put it into areas that are already supply constrained
These are the primary arguments for building more. Build enough and you will drive prices down, and with it the reputation of Vancouver's housing market as a safe store of value.
Housing can be cheap and not seen as a substantially valuable investment if we simply build to meet demand. Densely of course - something other than 20+ floor apartment buildings would be nice.
The problem is that housing is a commodity, not that foreign persons are purchasing the commodity. I guarantee you that if he follows through on this we'll see enterprising Canadian "entrepreneurs" buying the homes and creating securities to hide the ownership details and then selling those securities abroad.
If the market exists, wealthy folks will find a way to play in that market.
First, how is this still an issue given affordable housing was his platform in 2015?
October 5, 2015 Infrastructure: The Liberals want to invest $20 billion in public transit over 10 years, almost $20 billion more over 10 years for affordable housing, seniors’ facilities, early learning and recreational facilities; and $6 billion for green infrastructure over four years. They would also create various tax incentives and other programs to encourage the construction of both rental market and social housing.
Next, all this will do is encourage the use of "numbered corporations" to do the buying. How many homes in Canada are already owned this way?
use the existing anti-money laundering laws and stop the using Canada as a means to launder ill gotten gains.
And yet the amount of support he somehow still has in Canada makes me feel reassured it was a good decision to leave, people in this country will vote for whoever’s most woke even if their actions tell the exact opposite of what they said they stand for.
Government backed lending is a primary cause. Just like how student loans enabled university costs to skyrocket.
“Using new data from the Canadian Housing Statistics Program (CHSP), this paper provides a basis for an integrated account of the Canadian housing market in the last two decades. It shows how the housing markets in Vancouver and, to a lesser extent, Toronto have become de-coupled from local incomes due to significant flows of foreign capital.”
Regardless, is there a case to be made why a country should allow its housing supply to be treated as an investment vehicle, instead of the more beneficial purpose of housing its citizens? In cases like this, where a state’s obligation to the welfare of its people seems self-evident, the burden of proof is on you to to show that the massive and widespread foreign investment in real estate leading up to a housing affordability crisis somehow was not a factor.
How about Justin explains how foreigners owning 2% of homes in Canada has ANY impact whatsoever on prices?
The fact is that inflation has eroded away the value of $$ and houses that should cost $50,000 now cost $700k.
There's a particular problem with that hypothesis:
> Over the past 5 years, single-family home prices are up 150% in London-St. Thomas [Ontario], but down in Regina. They've barely budged in Edmonton. Monetary policy provides no explanation for that phenomenon.
* https://twitter.com/MikePMoffatt/status/1430892821968392198
Meanwhile, when you increase the population, but do not have a corresponding increase in supply:
* https://mikepmoffatt.medium.com/ontarians-on-the-move-2021-e...
There's no need to get into hard money, gold bug tropes about asset prices when supply and demand effects can explain regional price rises.
In the short term effects other than those caused by monetary policy can be overwhelming (e.g., London-St.Thomas, has had a huge influx of people from Toronto over the last 5 years that would have driven up prices regardless of whatever the monetary policy may be). But this doesn't change the fact that the dollar has lost 95% of its purchasing power and that the average house price in the 1930s used to be 1X the average yearly salary, whereas now it's 12x.
Have these sorts of policies, even when permanent, had much of an impact on places where they're implemented? From what I've heard it doesn't seem to have cooled off the market in places like New Zealand
And, as always, what does this do to address housing supply? Are foreigners also restricted from investing in new construction which might actually lower or slow housing costs?
Foreign investment of construction is a thing but I’ve not seen any studies on the net effect.
I’m not that familiar with the market in Vancouver, however they did pass a law regarding vacancy I believe. Perhaps a local could chime in on efficacy.
The Vancouver specific reaction has been the "Empty Homes Tax" https://vancouver.ca/home-property-development/empty-homes-t...
And according to Vancouver again, while the tax did cause a drop in empty houses declared, in every neighborhood except West End they represent less than 1% of total housing supply )https://vancouver.ca/news-calendar/more-vancouver-homes-occu...) and in most cases less than 0.5% of housing supply.
So while this may be an issue, it doesn't appear to be the issue and it seems that the basic economics here suggest that the issue in Vancouver was not limited to foreign investment. It would appear that in the Vancouver case, this ban on foreign homes would in fact be ineffective since it represents such a small share of housing.
it gives them a place to flee later in life. many of the houses bought by foreigners are vacant and have never been occupied.
For a gimps into this, look at Meng Wanzhou’s Vancouver mansions
How many mansions does a chinese national need in Vancouver?
That is a link to a startup visa program...
> it gives them a place to flee later in life. many of the houses bought by foreigners are vacant and have never been occupied.
> For a gimps into this, look at Meng Wanzhou’s Vancouver mansions
So Vancouver is expensive because a Billionaire's daughter has a 4m USD and a 11m USD Mansion ?
The commonalities between these populations is that they seems to neglect general macroeconomic trends, as well as local zoning gaffs.
Makes it almost impossible for me to empathize if everyone is so far off the mark.
Fortunately, being a melanin-infused minority I get to blend in to the left side of the inequality bell curve. So, that's a nice privilege in the populist uprising. "Gotta watch out for those gentrifiers I'll let you know if I see any! I can't believe anyone would have the audacity to pay the listed prices or leases set by landlords already here."
A foreign buyer ban will also miss the mark.