How I see it is the following: we were discussing about anti-lockdown. When I brought an argument against that attitude, I got replies about vaccine safety. When I addressed the vaccine safety, I got replies about diversity. This is what makes me repeat the above (even though heavily downvoted) conclusion: most people "against" are "against everything" on an ideological stance, be it on the streets or on hn. I'm an engineer former researcher and this lack of willingness to dialogue pains me deeply, going against everything I was trained to practice.