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So here's what the police could do next-

1. Record an album

2. Copyright the music and get it to all the social medias for automatic DCMA goodness

3. Play the album in all precincts, courthouses, squad cards, prisons, public offices, social disturbances-- like background Musak- or Waffle House music. Hell if they make it corny enough, maybe people will play it for the police. For the lulz.

4. Contract out a third party to pursue DCMA takedowns of anything left behind

5. Use the National Intellectual Property Rights Coordination Center task force for special abusers

Ok-- got a little carried away, but there's still a lot of potential here.

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Get the rights to "Silent Tracks of Various Useful Lengths"[0]. Now you can copy strike anything.

[0]https://www.amazon.com/Silent-Tracks-Various-Useful-Lengths/... (Highly recommend the Stadium Remix)

You have discovered: fraud

Let us return to those thrilling days of yesteryear when a firm named "Prenda Law" was still a going concern:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/copyright-troll-john-st...

It would certainly be a juicy story for a government agency to stray down this path!

Your parent comment has nothing to do with the behavior that got Prenda sanctioned, which was representing themselves to the court as a third-party law firm retained by the copyright owner when in fact they were the first-party copyright owner themselves.

I have never understood why anyone viewed what happened to Prenda as a victory against copyright trolling. Prenda was a group that engaged in blatant, abusive copyright trolling, yes. And the official opinion of the legal system is that that was fine, and other people should keep doing it.

Fair enough, I think the collusive part would be a vulnerability in the strategy. But even so, Fair Use is still in play.

I imagine the legal fallout from this would be very bad for the police department itself. Communications about this scheme would be public records.

If every police station and cop car in the country exclusively streamed this album, they could probably generate a decent amount of money from Spotify/Apple/YTmusic.

I tried doing something similar a while back, I made tracks with white/brown/pink noise to stream while you study or sleep called DonateYourStreams, with all the money going to nonprofits like Watsi & charity:water. Unfortunately DistroKid thought that was a ToS violation and disabled my account.

If music is playing in a public area then it logically shares the same right to record as photographing someone in public. The infringement lies on the side of the person playing a licensed song in a public venue

1. Have unrecognizable person play music in public 2. Record 3. Upload to YouTube 4. Profit

Or with current copyright crap, you could also record a whole bunch of common noises you hear in public, nature ect, upload to YouTube as ambient sound effects then go after “infringers” who have a sound clip in their video which is more than 90% similar to yours.

You're 100% and 100% delightfully creative and possibly evil.

I can see this all happening and more, but wow the mental gymnastics.

Ha thanks, it's my curse.

That seems like a lot of work.

They could just say that John Cage's 4'33" is playing in the background[1]. :P

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4%E2%80%B233%E2%80%B3

Government bodies and public services should not be allowed to copyright things then.

They just need to collectively buy the rights to the Cops theme song https://youtu.be/fXTn2gSG7es

... or Axel F.

Interesting plan, but fair use would be a problem.

Hm. Gotta have faith in the algorithm. If that fails then maybe add to the list to make a phone call so you can go after them criminally for wiretapping.

It doesn't matter if the content is actually fair use since the content will just be taken down anyways with little opportunity for appeal because it's YouTube.

A bigger hurdle for the police department is the 1st amendment suits a systemized program would attract.

You would need to counternotice with your personal details. (And the cops abusing the copyright system would get a copy)

YouTube's Content ID ignores Fair Use.

Fair Use is an affirmative defence against copyright infringeement. That is, its effective power is used in a court of law as an argument in defence against a criminal or civil copyright complaint.

TL;DR: Present policy says "F-U" to Fair Use.

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