The Chevy volt model as established in the early 2010s is an arm and a leg beyond the next closest competitor in the electric automobile space and this is a smirch upon its namespace
The instant torque provided by the electric motor and the ability to switch to just EV mode and run silent would have been killer for ORV enthusiasts and hunters.
Glad that you mostly agree with my statement.. if the regulators weren’t dragging their feet we could have this “platform” as an industry standard.. Ford f1-volty (:
That isn't true, the Gen1 Volt did.
The Gen1 and Gen2 Volts were very different AND they were very different from other hybrids.
The Gen1 Volt uses a single planetary gear similar to the Toyota and Ford Hybrids but had two electric motors referred to as the traction and generation motors. There was a clutch connecting the ICE to the generation motor and two clutches connecting the generation motor to the planetary gear. Under most operating conditions the ICE was off and physically disconnected from the generation motor and drivetrain.
The Gen1 Volt would operate in pure EV mode using just the traction motor at low speeds or using both electric motors at higher speeds until the pack depleted to a predetermined buffer level.
When the pack was depleted down to the buffer level, the generation motor would be disengaged from the drivetrain and couple to the ICE, the ICE would kick on and operate in Range Extending mode generating power via the generation motor for the traction motor. The ICE would operate with a wide open throttle at peak efficiency but physically disconnected from the drivetrain.
When in Range Extending mode, if you had a high power demand (e.g. operating at 100mph) then one of clutches would connect the generation motor to the planetary gear to allow the ICE to provide power to the drivetrain.
In the Gen1 Volt the vehicle could not be driven just by the ICE and undermost circumstances the ICE only acted to generate electricity and not to directly drive the wheels.
In the Gen2 Volt they switched to a dual planetary gear system with just two clutches that allowed for greater flexibility and efficiency but eliminated the ability run in Range Extending mode where the ICE was only used to generate electricity.
Maybe Tesla is not as tight as BMW, but it is definitely better than GM.
Even the Model 3, with it's base price of $35k, runs you around $50k after choosing a color and adding the FSD package.
For a $50,000 car, they are really not built well, quality-wise.
The Bolt, with every bell and whistle selected, runs about $37,000, for comparison.
But only when you fudge the numbers by including FSD.
> The Bolt, with every bell and whistle selected, runs about $37,000, for comparison.
And still lacks an L2 charger, one comparable to the one included with the Model 3 costs another $1000. So for $38k you can get a vehicle that isn't quite as nice as the base Model 3 for a $3k premium.
I don't think this is fudging at all. Tesla's big selling point is the FSD package... and most people select it by default. FSD is nearly all Musk talks about.
In fact, I'd argue it's Tesla fudging the numbers by breaking FSD out into a separate line item, just so they can advertise a cheaper car knowing full well people expect to have FSD for that price.
I mean even if there weren't data showing that as completely untrue...
https://electrek.co/2021/08/31/tesla-survey-take-rate-full-s...
... then why would Tesla bother to offer FSD as a subscription service if everyone is buying it?
It's notable the FSD survey had a peak in 2019 - perhaps 2020+ is impacted by covid related things (reduction of income, etc). Or, perhaps it's being influence by monthly stories of Tesla's driving into parked objects and the like.
Still, it was a tactic to break FSD into a separate line item so marketing could tell everyone the cars were cheaper than assumed.
I hope not, or Tesla's reputation is going to take a hell of a beating when they learn the reality.
The charger included with the bolt is 240V capable, though they don't really advertise it AFAIK.
> for $38k
MSRP on the Bolt is $31K. Historically they've routinely been available for under $25K. And you know what the Bolt has that the Tesla doesn't? CarPlay. And good windshield wiper controls. The Tesla has some upsides, for sure, I mostly enjoyed mine (primarily for it's speed, however). But at $25K vs $35K, I'd get the Bolt every time.
Also, for the 2022 EV and EUV, GM will pay for an L2 outlet installation at home.
It is a similar thing with Ford's Blue Cruise.
Have you seen the i3 disaster?
EDIT: Compare to the top end of Chevy vehicle pricing: https://www.autoguide.com/new-cars/chevrolet/
It's firmly in BMW, Mercedes, Land Rover territory, not Chevy territory, which it's being compared against.
Then my friend bought one, and it was as good as any other new car I've seen. It looked great.
I found that quite strange. Is it a roll of the dice based on where and when they're made, or would the demo models have come from a pool that were rejected for sale somehow?
China Gigafactory produced Teslas are typically higher quality than Fremont builds.
Edit: Ah, I see your edit. But if that's what's happening, it's not a line maturity thing. The new factory is the one making the good models.
Much worse horsepower
Much worse EV range
Still requires ICE maintenance
Worse software
The radio might be better in the Tesla, but how many Volts drove their owners into parked fire trucks?
That seems completely baseless though.
> “Grandfather” was shorthand for “grandfathered in”
In the sentence "I drive my grandfathers old car and I think most people have at least 2 grandfathers"?
In any case, both of my grandfathers have been dead many years. And I assure you, the last cars they owned (which were manufactured in the 60s) are not what we want on the roads today.