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> Not an illegal turn.

[edit] I linked to the law from the wrong state. Here's the right one:

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.305

RCWs > Title 46 > Chapter 46.61 > Section 46.61.305

(1) No person shall turn a vehicle or move right or left upon a roadway unless and until such movement can be made with reasonable safety nor without giving an appropriate signal in the manner hereinafter provided.

(2) A signal of intention to turn or move right or left when required shall be given continuously during not less than the last one hundred feet traveled by the vehicle before turning.

Every other state has similar laws.

The Tesla was not signaling before or during that turn. That on its own makes the turn illegal.

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Isn't that just "failing to signal a turn"? If you told me someone made an "illegal turn", I'd think they made right on a intersection with a non right turn sign.

> Isn't that just "failing to signal a turn"?

You mean "making the turn illegally"? Potato potato.

> California Vehicle Code

This is Seattle, under the monorail (5th Ave).

You're right and I noted the section of the washington state driving code that applies. I'm pretty sure that every state in the US has a variant of this same law and picking the wrong one doesn't matter for the purposes of this thread.

Sure, but it's weird to bring up CA vehicle law, specifically, when it's completely irrelevant. You could have made the broader point without the irrelevant detail.

You're right again. I've edited the first comment since this is clearly a problem.

I don't think that is California though..

Yes, that's Seattle.

You're right! Someone else says it's Seattle, so let's see...

https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.305

RCWs > Title 46 > Chapter 46.61 > Section 46.61.305

(2) A signal of intention to turn or move right or left when required shall be given continuously during not less than the last one hundred feet traveled by the vehicle before turning.

Do we think that every state in the US doesn't have a similar law?

This is pedantic. Human drivers routinely don’t use their turn signals.

What is the end-game here? What do you possibly want to argue? The car was perfectly aware it was making a turn, but decided to not use the turn signal because.. peer pressure?

It's baffling.

Do you believe you should turn your signal on before swerving to avoid a crash?

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