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It’s depressing how all these stories just reinforce the idea that the US could never suffer another lockdown.

We have exploding cases and even a brief lockdown would greatly decrease them, but the political will to try and stop it has completely dried up, likely from business interests.

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Lockdowns cause obesity, suicide both in short-term and long term, and we don’t have figures on whether the lack of exercise and sadness causes more cancer but it could. I personally have lost all of my friends due to anger issues, I only have my workmates left, if I ever lose my keys. There has also been visibly more attacks in France since the lockdowns started (bethroatings, I mean). Pro-lockdown people never seem to include the human aspect of it.

A 2 week lockdown caused this? I'm not advocated for a year long one again, but having 100k+ cases a day might be more harmful.

Is the hospitalization rate and death rate among vaccinated people really that high? Or is it at or below flu rates? I think that's what should be driving lockdown decisions.

If the rates of hospitalization and death are still high for unvaccinated people, I don't see why we should suffer more restrictions for people who refuse to protect themselves.

I don't have a business and I don't want to be shut in home. If you want to then lock yourself down, thanks.

No one wants to do chemotherapy or have tumor excisions, but you need to or you suffer a worse fate.

Chemotherapy is actually an excellent analogy. We don't give chemotherapy to everyone just because a few people might have undetected cancer.

Cancer does not spread rapidly through air. Also, chemotherapy is done after you get cancer. It is not a preventative measure.

It is preventative though, it prevents the cancer from progressing and metastasizing.

It is not preventative in the sense that you can't ask millions of people to get chemotherapy just in case.

It’s a reductio ad absurdism, I’m not saying everyone has potential cancer, I’m saying that sometimes protecting your health isn’t convenient or fun. The idea is that it is temporary.

Not a good analogy. Many doctors chose to bypass chemotherapy and tumor excisions. Chances are the gain is a handful of years of utmost misery. If that.

https://www.fredhutch.org/en/news/center-news/2014/05/How-do...

> “dying patients continue to be hospitalized and subjected to ineffective therapies that erode their quality of life and their personal dignity” while doctors “have a striking personal preference to forego high-intensity care for themselves at the end-of-life and prefer to die gently and naturally.”

I’m not good at analogies I guess. I’ll come up with a new one.

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