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England will be first country to require new homes to include EV chargers

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41 pointsfinphil14 comments

This is tremendous. The cost is trivial at build but expensive to retrofit. Smart policy that should be replicated elsewhere.

And the best part is, a powerful electric socket can be useful for people who don't have or want EVs. Smart move all around.

Not an electrician but I think the bigger issue is appropriate electrical outlet, say 220V in US homes.

So I think even just having/mandating that, just like they do for electrical dryers today, would be huge win so that

1) attaching a new charger becomes trivial

2) you’re not limited in case new chargers/standards come in future.

But overall a step in the right direction.

In US homes, you would want a 90A 220V circuit mandated to terminate in the garage or wherever the vehicle is stored. This provides for 72A usable after required 20% NEC derating, and although current EVs max out at about 48A (on 60A circuits), this allows for vehicles like the F150 Lightning and the Tesla Cybertruck that might have higher onboard inverter support, as they are going to have large batteries to fill.

That's what I did -- ran the circuit for 90A load but have it limited to 45A via a 60A breaker.

My whole house is a 100amp hookup. Its unreal to think what the costs for new lines being ran from the pole to house could add upto.

Aside from that, its a rental property with no garage. And since I have sat by for the last two years with the dream of owning a house becoming more of a pipe dream by the week. I find the discussion of morality and ethics of this repugnant.

As I understand it, much of the costs of soaring homeprices (in all respects) are due to mostly erroneous changes to building codes, zoning laws, municipal differences, and so much other red tape.

Overall, I still see these properties being put up overnight if you will, and am left wondering (specifically in the US) how much care or cost was put into extending the life of properties by building them well. I know Europe has a much better understanding of the benefits this has overall. I wish it were true in the states.

Having multiple 220V outlets in the garage could also be a boom for the hobby community considering how many garages end up being used as home workshops instead. You could run some pretty powerful equipment off of that.

There is a similar policy being debated by the city council in Auckland, New Zealand. Parking spaces for new builds either need to have electric car chargers or have power run to the parking space so that it can be upgraded with a easily. The minimum number of car parking spaces which were previously mandated are also being removed.

What if the new home owner doesn't want a car? The UK already has too many regulations and I don't think this will have as much impact as expected. Electric cars are already taking off on their own. Adding charging ports to homes won't solve the number-one reason people have not gone electric-- charging availabilty for long distance trips. This won't solve that problem (though combining it with an Uber-like service for renting these chargers out might).

Same as for people who live in apartment buildings with mandatory parking spots which nobody use: they will have to be rented out at extreme discount at buyer's expense.

This requirement should cost the homeowner no more than a few pounds per month in their mortgage.

It probably won't even cost that. There is a shortage of land so the only constraint on price is what people are able to spend. Any increases in the cost of building will fall on the person selling the land rather than home owners.

Well. One type of long distance trip might be visiting relatives - if they have a charging point as a result of this then great.

>The UK already has too many regulations

Too few when it comes to house building, our standards are well behind the rest of Europe.

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