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Iirc there was an actual tip line, so nonzero. The content was very obvious satire though

Sometimes hard to tell, especially after all these years of Trump. Is “the election was stolen” satire? The difference between satire and reality is in the intent of the author, harder and harder to detect as people read less and less of it

I completely agree -- hell, I still can't work out if "Trump colluded with Putin to hack the election" was satire or if people actually believed it.

You do recall the months-long investigation into this question ? One that resulted in 37 indictments and 5 prison sentences? Even if it exonerated the Trump campaign, which it didn't, I don't think you're very accepting of alternate viewpoints.

No, I don't recall that. I recall a years long investigation into it that conceded that no evidence was ever found that implicated Trump or his campaign of colluding with Russians. I kind of have to wonder why people like Adam Schiff are still hiding all that "ample evidence" of collusion they insisted existed -- is he also in Putin's pocket and covering up for Trump?

I can guess how accepting you are of alternate viewpoints.

Trump is on videotape literally asking for Russia to hack things for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kxG8uJUsWU

That?

Joe Biden is literally on videotape saying he threatened the Ukrainian government to not receive aid if they didn't fire their prosecutor investigating his son's company. When trump accused him of it, trump was impeached for his predecessors crimes.

But yeah let's talk about what's literally on videotape

Talk about a non sequitur.

Biden is on tape talking about he passed along the message that Ultimate had to fire a corrupt prosecutor who was refusing to investigate companies including Burisima the company whose board Hunter Biden was on.

VP Biden was merely the messanger Getting rid of the corrupt Shokin was supported by the rest of the Obama administration, the State Department, the EU, and many Republicans.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republican-senators-pushed-for...

Trump was impeached for trying to pressure the Ukrainian president into making up bullshit investigation of Biden to tarnish his name. For trying to abuse American aid money to blackmail a friendly foreign leader

Keep telling that to yourself. Getting rid of a prosecutor investigating your son's company because of 'corruption' smells of corruption. That more members of the administration supported it just smells widespread corruption.

I mean the majority of public evidence strongly points towards Trump colluding with Putin regardless of whether Russias efforts changed a close election

There is no evidence of that at all actually. Saying there is is on par with anti-vaxxers and other election conspiracy theorists. It's a denial of reality, and a denial of the expert investigations and reports into it.

You have been taken by a conspiracy theory. You were lied to by people you trust, etc. I know it's hard or impossible to accept that, but that's what it is.

I think the QAnon stuff was originally satire or joking around. It was just a hypothetical thing like “can you imagine?” There was probably some sarcastic tongue-in-cheek responses with false confirmation: “can you believe [absurd thing] is actually true!,” etc. Some less savvy people didn’t pick up on it, and we know the disastrous results. I wonder how the original “Q” poster feels that it was taken completely seriously.

That’s an interesting take.

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