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For those that don't know, this will only be available in Windows 11, see https://github.com/microsoft/wslg/issues/347#issuecomment-87...

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I see that those of us with a 7th gen Intel core CPU that "need not to worry because W10 will be supported for years" will immediately start missing functionality.

To be honest I’m not going to miss the annual update that messes with all my settings and tries to force a MS account on me.

You know, you will still get those.

I assume not, that we will just get security updates until it goes end of life. No more "features".

I hope you're excited for the 21H2 feature update, coming in the second half of 2021. The announcement mentions that it will get 18 months of servicing so I'm assuming this means we will get future feature updates as well.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2021/07/15/intro...

At the very least the support requirement is a soft one, not a hard one. A large portion of motherboards from that era had firmware updates to officially support Win11, and Win11 WILL work on an i7-7700k even though its not in the list. You unfortunately won't get it through Windows update and will have to install the hard way.

And if there's problems, you'll be sorry out of luck.

Pisses me off, but at least it's not a complete blocker.

According to The Verge, they may block security updates if you install manually through the ISO, so that's a no go for me: https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/28/22646035/microsoft-window...

Ok, if that's true, I'm back to raging about how absolutely ridiculous this is. Why obsolete a computer that can still run almost anything on high-ish settings @.@ Because there's 0.01% more crash or whatever....

so they can get an extra $60 out of the OEM for a new Windows license when you buy another PC

I’m speculating it was supposed to let them drop Meltdown patches. Doing so easily creates “20% performance gain over Windows 10 on same machine”. Aligns with the statement that they “block” “security” updates.

But this is clearly coming from someone who’s not actively in coding role and without consultation with developers, as some of CPUs(namely Ryzen 2k) to be supported don’t have the required but not very well debugged features(MBEC for Zen 2 - Ryzen 3k and up with luck).

I don't think 7820HQ has more resistance to Meltdown than 7700HQ. In fact TSX-NI might make it worse. Yet they allow the former but not the latter.

> I’m speculating

Was that a pun?

There is the path that that could be TRUE, and the path that that could be FALSE :p

Support doesn’t mean you get all the new features.

Yeah bummer. My old Windows machine won't be upgradable to Windows 11 ... interestingly I was able to install the Windows 11 preview and even get the WSL2 update with the integrated X11/GUI and it worked great. However I was notified I couldn't upgrade to official build and the only recourse was to re-install Windows 10.

I'll need to revert to one of the available X11 servers but I wiped out the old configuration and it's kinda painful to automatically set $DISPLAY and also get Norton Firewall to play along.

I have a solution for the disk/partition type/layout incompatible with upgrading to newer Windows 11 builds (but not the TPM workaround) but I haven’t gotten around to packaging it and publishing it for download on our site.

Don't think I've heard about those, what all requirements changed on the storage side there?

I don’t know if it’s what the GP was referring to but partition requirements pertaining to MBR vs GPT and specific requirements for alignment, MSR properties, and order of partitions has been locked down considerably. Annoyingly they all manifest as an opaque “this PC isn’t compatible” or similar message.

To be fair, it's also the first prerequisite on the linked page.

> WSLg is going to be generally available alongside the upcoming release of Windows. To get access to a preview of WSLg, you'll need to join the Windows Insider Program and be running a Windows 10 Insider Preview build from the beta or dev channels.

WHAT??????

I always thought it would be enabled on Windows 10.

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