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VAERS shows several thousand have died. Some estimate 45k based on a Harvard study on VAERS indicating a % that goes unreported.

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“The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) database contains information on *unverified* reports of adverse events (illnesses, health problems and/or symptoms) following immunization with US-licensed vaccines. *Reports are accepted from anyone*…”

Ignoring that VAERS is unverified data, and taking that 45k as "all these people died directly due to the vaccine", it's still only 45k out of 378M doses administered - 0.012%.

(For comparison, 2021 has 31k gun deaths[1] through September and 21.5k road deaths through the first 6 months.)

[1] https://www.gunviolencearchive.org [2] https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/overview/prelimina...

You’re going off topic. It is just a tool to track data. But here they are admitting that it suffers from underreporting. https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html

It also says "The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event."

Also, on the download page, "However, in general coding terms in VAERS do not change based on the information received during the follow-up process. VAERS data should be used with caution as numbers and conditions do not reflect data collected during follow-up."

Which is just different ways of saying "this data is probably unreliable", no?

That's interesting, my very official competing VAERS shows that the vaccine has caused several thousand people to have spontaneously come into existence! I welcome you to submit your data, as I accept any reports from anyone regardless of political axe to grind.

Please, cite your source.

Deaths on VAERs doesn't meant it was caused by COVID (I'm sure you're aware of this but the grandparent poster was probably not

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaers-9318/fact-ch...

Indeed. Baselining is important, even if an estimate.

Indeed. You should read some of these reports. It sounds like you haven’t. If someone gets the vaccine and dies the next day, sure it is very possible it is not the cause. But it should be reported. And when many people have the same symptoms after a vaccine, it becomes a common side effect.

I have read them -- and we are in complete agreement.

Here is some great information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfFeocgSKvU

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