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This is one tweet that I saw on Twitter that looked actually bad https://twitter.com/ashleygjovik/status/1426014545202479108

> Her entire social media presence appears to be built around capitalizing on these stories

Or, she is focused on shedding light on bad behavior of others and she was actually bullied and picked on by some twats at Apple and she wants consequences?

So in the end, I don't understand why it would be a problem to create a website for news coverage and tweet highlights. If she feels she's been wronged, it's okay to fight back, even if she was employed by Apple. What's wrong with that?

On this site, people always say "bad Apple" ("bad Google", etc) behaving badly and abusing its power. Yet, when an employee comes out with complaints, we pretend it is not okay to complain about your employer?

I don't know who is in the wrong here, we have seen both dramatic employees that take offense in everything innocent, but we have also seen corporations covering up bullying and abusive behavior. Which one is it in this case? I don't know yet, I bet you don't either.

From what I understand, there were a few such tickets created for multiple people on that team. “Make X’s life hell”. It’s at best a poorly thought out joke, but it is worth mentioning that this ticket was not isolated to her.

How about the one where they filled a whiteboard with nasty nicknames for her?

Well, that definitely puts this into a different perspective... I see how at some of my former companies we would have made such joke tickets for each other.

It's really hard to tell who is right from the outside, considering all parties might take things out of context.

Just as a personal comment, that is why am the most boring person ever with my coworkers. (Assuming you are right) Is it really worth writing a "joke" ticket like this when it might come back in 6 years and you'll be painted as the bullies of Apple?

Yes, it's definitely worth having a team where you can bond over light, harmless jokes that fly in all directions. It's also okay to be 'boring', of course.

I'm sure her old team is dismayed to see her lying about it now.

From: The Verbally Abusive Relationship: How to Recognize It and How to Respond by Patricia Evans

""" > Abuse disguised as a joke happens when abusers make comments about you that they want other people to believe are funny, but you know they are threats and put-downs in disguise. They’re sick personal jokes between the two of you. Only you know the real story behind his “humor” so friends may wonder why you cry or become so upset when he teases and jokes... Abusers tend to use sarcastic humor and make fun of other people – but they rarely if ever poke fun at themselves. """

Strange how confident you are in accusing her of lying. Almost like you have this strategy down to a science. Can't imagine why.

Your comment was dead, so I vouched for it. I think your accusation is wildly off base, though.

Could you please clarify in what way? I think your accusation that she's lying is wildly off base, but the difference is that I cited an external source to validate my insinuation.

That’s fine that you think that. Your source was a general quote from a book not relevant to that kind of sarcastic whiteboard comment or ticket.

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