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> Letting just a few folks define what a gender represents, as if one side or the other does not share those traits.

If you think masculinity is arbitrary and that traits are not specific to a gender, then why do you argue that men should be denied the same supports that other people get at college?

> And yes I am straight, white, and male,

Why are you so angry at white men?

> with a nice haircut and could tell you the 7 day forecast everyday of the year.

What relevance do these have?

> Would love to hear your definition on masculinity and why you treasure it's meaning so much.

Asking you what it means to you doesn’t imply anyone treasures it’s meaning. You are reading that in.

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Happy Thursday buddy.

The premise of your question doesn't relate to that last part, (masculinity vs men, different things) but I can answer the last part: they do get the same level of support maybe even better, but no, they shouldn't receive specific support reserved for folks with different obstacles.

I like white men! Love everyone! I dislike excuses around "poor me"s from folks that lack perspective on how they have it better, (I did not say good, said better). And not all white dudes feel sorry for themselves and blame "society", or college, or women, or other skin colors, or etc... Those folks are awesome to hang with. I'll hang with anyone, but you'll get an ear full if you bring that stuff up and are a white dude, still friendly though.

THE RELEVANCE OF MY HAIR IS EVERYTHING, I am in my 30's and it's committing suicide everyday, I'll talk about it while I still can. (You really hate my jokes, still like you though)

I usually don't care if you don't answer my questions but I was truly truly hoping you'd answer what you think masculinity is, I answered for you, come on now.

> they do get the same level of support maybe even better

This is clearly false. White men are not a unitary group. Large numbers of them are deeply underprivileged.

Denying underprivileged people support because of their race is racist. This still happens to black people too and that is also racism.

Adding more racism is not a way to end racism.

> they shouldn't receive specific support reserved for folks with different obstacles.

What about the men who have obstacles? Should they not receive support for the obstacles they do have?

> I dislike excuses around "poor me"s from folks that lack perspective on how they have it better,

Where is anyone here making such excuses? I think that is in your imagination.

> And not all white dudes feel sorry for themselves and blame "society", or college, or women, or other skin colors, or etc...

Where is anyone talking about white dudes feeling sorry for themselves or blaming women or other skin colors except you?

white dudes are underprivileged?

See it's better when you share your opinion, that way it's easier to see what you are thinking. You are getting mad at me for all these assumptions, but I was right, you really think white people are underprivileged, "it's unfair", and you call me reprehensible. This is where I'd hope you'd be sarcastic.

It's been fun zepto, i thought threads could keep going, but they can't. Here is what you are going to do, you are going to keep looking up statistics why is harder to be white. You'll keep complaining how the white man doesn't get his fair share. And that denying white people even more privilege is the real racism. You are the "poor me", and life is going to be incredibly challenging for you but you'll probably find support in some white guys group where they can "stay proud" and stand up for the white man. Just take care of yourself and don't hurt anybody.

Still never answered the question, thats just cruel, I was really hoping I'd get that answered.

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