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Interesting bits on Germany

> In case there was a call for boycotting the German merchandise, it better to have a substitute to the German technology, and the substitute may be the Japanese or the South Korean.

First: Japan has a technology to cover the needs of the people, who want to dispense with the German goods,

Second: Japan is going through a destructive and fierce crises, this may be a clear message to Japan if this was suitable, this is a suggestion, and I do not know anything about Japan.

> After the publishing of the caricatures insulting Prophet Muhammad in Denmark, the German Minister of the Interior called asked all the European Newspapers to publish the caricatures, and it has a weight since it was not said by a minister of some country, but the Interior Minister of a country that has the largest publishing house in Europe (Axel‐Springer Verlag) , and what is important to mention is, the same minister promised reporters from Der Spiegel a day before the first Summit of Islam that if any one described him in this Summit as a Kafir (Infidel), he will face problems.

> Mentioning this will serve us in spreading fear among the Media personalities believing publishing them, means targeting them. If the Media is afraid, the barrier between the truth and the people is broken. Fearing for their lives, the media will publish what encourages the people to vote for who wants to pull the tro ops, and only God knows.

The top links all go to CIA website and have loads of PDFs that I think contain Al Qaeda propaganda and news. So don't click on that in the UK, pretty sure it's illegal to download that with our terror laws.

would be quite the kafkaesque irony if they jailed someone for downloading PDFs from https://cia.gov

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiyfwZVAzGw

Good god, I had no idea how bad the state of personal freedoms is in the UK. That's horrifying.

For the curious, parent is talking about this: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/terrorist-pr...

I don't think I'd click on any of the links as a US citizen in the USA...I don't want to wind up on any more lists (the assumption being everyone is on one/some lists.)

In the UK you can be arrested for insulting people on Twitter.

It seems the general public of UK already lost the war on terror.

Based on the technical books Bin Laden owned I think he could potentially do a better job than they did with this page.

Plot twist: Bin Laden built this site himself as a Dreamweaver tutorial

> McAfee Antivirus ...

I just about spit out my coffee.

What I love about this section is how the software manuals section reads like a tragic poem. "And here, even this man faced the plague of HP Printers, Adobe software, and McAfee free trials."

Props to the joker who built the page like it was still 2001. Why does it refresh on each click of a section of books? Terrible.

The top link (batch Nov 2017) also somehow 404.

joomla in a nutshell

Guess that explains why when you click on english language books the first time, it loads them. Click on something else it page reloads with no change. Or maybe it doesnt explain that at all. Very antiquated site.

And clicking on "Other Miscellaneous Documents" expands the previous section instead ("Software & Technical Manuals").

Half the links are also incorrect. Change the start variable in the URL if you can't open the section you want.

That joker almost certainly == the lowest bidder in what was like ya terrible government requisition process for a website.

Note that most of the documents were just various files from the ~10 computers they took from the compound. There's nothing really tying him to many of them. And it's unclear if he even understood English, he claimed not to but his pedigree would suggest he did.

> Black Box Voting, Ballot Tampering in the 21st Century by Bev Harris

> Bloodlines of the Illuminati by Fritz Springmeier

These two were the most interesting on the list to me. Not sure why he cared about the first , but the second (and other titles about conspiracies) is really strange to me. Has anyone here read that book?

Interestingly enough there's also an occult-related book called The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly Hall (1928). That book is more or less an overview of esoteric beliefs in the West. Why was he fascinated in this stuff?

It may make sense if you couple it with the MKULTRA/influence material he also had as a way to understand his adversary and potentially influence them using their own dogma.

It's very possible some of those were simply gifts.

> Bloodlines of the Illuminati by Fritz Springmeier

The reviews in amazon seem to rave about it. https://www.amazon.com/Bloodlines-Illuminati-Fritz-Springmei...

Though, take them with a grain of salt.

Here's a quote from the introduction of the illuminati book:

> In mockery and imitation of God’s 12 tribes, Satan blessed 12 bloodlines. One of these bloodlines was the Ishmaeli bloodline from which a special elite line developed alchemy, assassination techniques, and other occult practices. One bloodline was Egyptian/Celtic/Druidic from which Druidism was developed. One bloodline was in the orient and developed oriental magic. One lineage was from Canaan and the Canaanites. It had the name Astarte, then Astorga, then Ashdor, and then Astor. The tribe of Dan was used as a Judas Iscariot type seed. The royalty of the tribe of Dan have descended down through history as a powefful Satanic bloodline. The 13th or final blood line was copied after God’s royal lineage of Jesus. This was the Satanic House of David with their blood which they believe is not only from the House of David but also from the lineage of Jesus, who they claim had a wife and children. The 13th Satanic bloodline was instilled with the direct seed of Satan so that they would not only carry Christ’s blood--but also the blood of his "brother" Lucifer.

- https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/FC/FC2F53710...

Seems like exactly the kind of thing a religious extremist would be into.

Seems the book can be downloaded from the CIA website? Or perhaps it's just an article of Fritz Springmeier that relates to the book?

https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/FC/FC2F53710...

- Adobe Acrobat Manual

- Adobe Photoshop Manual

- Dreamweaver Manual

Sounds like he got too much time at his hand

He must have done a lot a victory laps from his reading material:

https://www.dni.gov/index.php/features/bin-laden-s-bookshelf...

Note the last element in the list: "“Website Claims Steve Jackson Games Foretold 9/11,” article posted on ICV2.com (this file contained only a single saved web page)".

What?! Well, here it is:

https://archive.is/PTdB3

- Arabic language tutorial for violent jihadist extremists on how to use Google

Thats halirious ;)

Is it? Have you seen

[1] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Kybernetiq+magazine ?

AFAIK it covers anything from rooting your smartphone, installing alternative OS/'ROM', ungoogling, alternative appstores, sideloading, safe messaging, using Linux the same way, and so on.

edit: I should say the discovery shocked me a bit at the time. Because before that I talked on IRC with ppl I just knew electronically, but not in person about how Cybernetics have almost been forgotten, that it is now covered by systems (of systems) science, complexity sciences, but that Cybernetics are the root of this. And pointed them to the available literature. And a few months later I saw the headlines about this magazine. Furthermore some ppl seemed to come from Belgium, at least they talked about local things. Maybe they have 'franchised' it a little bit because of that.

Anyways, now I rarely use IRC anymore at all. The fuckers should be drowned in pig shit!

Are you some kind of bot?

Someone with the ability to flag comments should look at this.

What makes you think that?

Now that's an ELIZA response

Poe's Law

SCNR :-)

"Although, three years ago the missile cost was seven hundred fifty rupees but now it is three thousand "

Are you kidding me? RPGs or better ("missiles") cost 3000 rupees? That's 40 US$.

Where is this a quote from? I was curious if exchange rates had changed that much since, e.g. the year 2000, but at 2000 rates, 3000 Rs. is still only about $70, which still seems pretty low for explosive ammo.

'Letter on logistics'

I actually read Killing Hope by William Blum a few years ago from the CIA link: https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/13/130AEF153...

I highly recommend it for anyone wanting to learn more about CIA meddling in third world countries.

Didn't they also find porn? Or was that propaganda?

Bin Laden was a successful businessman in Sudan during that country's dark times. A dictator instituted sharia, and Bin Laden was able to run a variety of businesses in its capital. He was not a world renowned terrorist at this time, merely an intelligent and capable Islamic fundamentalist. It was only later he would move East and begin plotting a reign of cruel terror.

The Bin Laden family is well known in middle east Civil engineering circles.

I probably have a Bin Laden number of 3 or even 2 given I used to work for a well known Arab Consulting engineers in London and I am sure my department boss knew Bin Laden's Father.

Bloodlines of the Illuminati

Some anti-Semitic drivel, I suppose?

Chomsky fan.

classic CIA

It's not that unbelievable though. Democracies - generally - foster free thinking. Free thinkers question the policies and are generally critical of the government. It's crucial to the functioning of a democratic society. But then the "enemies" of a democratic society will use the same thing in their favor.

> It's not that unbelievable though.

I don't doubt it. Doesn't make "Bin Laden's Bookshelf" less of a PR stunt

That feeling when Bin Laden reads more books than me..

Well, he had to keep away from the internet, so I guess he had more time than me.

> The Best Enemy Money Can Buy

Definitely, a very suitable reading for the mood: https://www.dawn.com/news/1644978/a-mere-400000

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