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I am fully vaccinated and will get a booster as soon as offered but even I am so sick of people preaching about this.

You do your part individually and that is the best you can do. All you are doing when you post something like this is causing a visceral reaction in the people that need to get vaccinated of "fuck you internet guy, I am not listening to you, I am not getting vaccinate!"

The people I know that are not vaccinated are this exactly. They are so pig headed that if you preach at them they will dig in their heals and do the opposite almost automatically. We need people to just shut up about this already and dial everything back so it is not some admission of defeat for pig headed people who haven't got the vaccine to actually do so.

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Pragmatism is dead.

Are you trying to change people’s mind or show that you are enlightened.

The preaching about damn masks does not change minds. That’s the point. Maybe a compassionate understanding of why people refuse is better. What’s that old saying “before they care you got to show that you care about them”

This IS about society. Only 60? 70% agree that masks / vaccines are imperative. This leaves a large minority that society needs to work with.

This is not an education problem. This is a hearts and minds problem and so to the original OP. Feel before you speak such things to make it counter productive to yours and dare I say society’s goals.

If you want to be part of society you have to wear pants and you have to get vaccinated. If you can’t do those things then you can go somewhere else.

Or at least pay for your own covid test that clears you for a visit into society for 24 hours.

We can’t be burdened by the village idiot forever.

wearing pants != getting vaccinated, not in the slightest.

Stop comparing the two.

We've been wearing pants for several centuries now, this vaccine is new. The mRNA vaccines are not the same as past vaccines in either their immediate effect (I was zonked out for three days) or in their long-term effects (which, despite how safe they seem so far are simply not tested long term).

I say this as somebody who is fully vaccinated (Johnson & Johnson).

"wearing pants" is, i believe, an allusion to "engage in adult social behavior", not a literal exhortation to cover one's legs.

the vaccine technology is both new and old. most vaccines come with various levels of immediate side effects, and anecdotally, the COVID-19 ones seems to be at least as safe in this regard as any other vaccines that have been administered to hundreds of millions of people. It is true that the long term effects are unknown, and there could be some. However, most immunologists seem to be of the consensus that most after-effects from vaccines take place within a fairly narrow window, which we are now firmly out of for very large numbers of people. That doesn't rule out some hitherto unknown and unforeseen long side effect, but it does make it rather unlikely.

Consequently, taking the vaccine is reasonably considered "adult social behavior" at this point, and is therefore analogous to "wearing pants".

>All you are doing when you post something like this is causing a visceral reaction in the people that need to get vaccinated of "fuck you internet guy, I am not listening to you, I am not getting vaccinate!"

This hypothetical person was never going to get vaccinated anyway. The only way "preaching" would cause the outcome you describe would be if that adult had the maturity and oppositional defiance of a toddler.

You haven’t met that many adults have you?

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