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For German speaking people that want more insights: The Spiegel and others did lots of Reportagen on the Remmo clan and the absurdity behind this is ridiculous.

For example, they legally receive money from the Agentur fuer Arbeit because they're registered as having no job; while riding a damn Lamborghini literally to the Agentur for Arbeit, on camera.

The police got one of the brothers who did the Dresden Raub, even found matching diamond dust at his place, locked him up - but then he got free because he "had to care for his sick dad", while he has 6 goddamn brothers who all live in Germany; coincidentially all jobless but too busy to care for this "sick dad".

The justice system failed so much against these two clans: The Remmo clan and Abou-Chaker clan in case you want to find more about them. They're the worst of organized crime with deep connections everywhere.

They steal everything, and the cultural heritage is lost because they don't give a damn about it. They even bragged on social media with the golden coin, just to mess with the police. And the police plays their cat and mouse game like rookies.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O42UW7rF8yA

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2s1uZZa2Bw

Wissam Remo, who did the heist, was in court for the theft of of the big gold coin from the Bode Museum, but later they freed him because of reasons of 'court economy' (article didn't explain what that is) and because he had to care for his father. They didn't even keep him in custody because there was no 'risk of repeat offence', so he just did the heist while waiting for his day in court.

How they stole the gold coin; just got into the museum with a ladder and took the thing; and that was a 100kg whopper of a coin.

[1] https://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/einbruch-in-bode-museum-u...

Correct.

The authorities don't want to be seen as racist, so nothing seems to happen. And the parties in power in Berlin (city/state) are on the left/green side, so that's not helping either.

I really doubt the problems here come down to some attempt at evading accusations of racism.

Please go to the streets in Berlin where both families reside. Police are everywhere, people are stopped frequently, people who happen to have the same (very common Arabic) last names are questioned all the time. It really isn't the case that the police is trying to keep some anti-racist PR up.

The issue here is that the laws are quite limited. Till a few years ago the authorities weren't even able to freeze accounts of people involved in these groups. Even now most of these cases are treated as singular even if the ties to organized crime are more than obvious. The issue here really isn't some attempt at not appearing racist, it's that often times the hands of the police are tied or that the star-lawyers (how do they afford them, wink wink?) hired by the accused get them more lenient sentences on total bureaucratic technicalities. Also - frankly - Berlin's government is pretty incompetent. Things are changing, albeit slowly.

About them getting the social security money in a lamborghini, lets not forget the other side of the coin: many of the original clan members never got a legal status in germany after immigrating. They were just "tolerated" and never could legally work (except when in prison). This is what created the clan economy in the 80s.

As often, there are multiple sides to the story of Arabic clans in Germany. A journalist and a member of a Clan-Family sat down and did a 12-part podcast to try and clear up with some of the preconceptions people have about these clans. It's called "Clanland" (in German).

I don't want to play this awful heist down, the podcast gave me some perspective to clan structures in Germany though. What the thieves did is absolutely appalling.

There is probably a deeper connection between the clans and the german law enforcement and (counter) intelligence agencies. That would explain the sometimes absurd leniency.

Germany needs better racketeering laws. Right now it's way too simple for people involved in these groups.

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