> As long as the homeless people have been offered help and are not harming others
So I don’t know why you’re giving examples where they are causing harm.
I don't care about their wishes, guided by drug addiction and mental health issues. To allow and enable this much squandering of human potential is a moral crime.
Get people clean of drugs, healthy, stable, and educated. By force, if needed. If from that baseline he decides to go back into a life of drugs and onto the streets, then so be it. But don't allow people to commit themselves to a slow death until they've been forced to step onto a better path and see what their life _could_ be.
Forcing people to take part in a society that has already rejected them and conform to someone else’s view of normal, healthy, stable, etc., that, to me, would be literal torture. I don’t consider it humane to torture people.
How do you feel about all the busywork jobs that enable so so much more squandering of human potential? Should all those folks be forced to live your version of their best life?
I guess I'll tell my drug addicted cousin he's all good because he's vulnerable.
You can be moral by being against the will of someone who's lost their way.
Who are you to decide what their ‘way’ is supposed to be to know they’re off it?
Some parents think their gay children have lost their way and force them into ‘treatment’.
I guess you think they’re wrong and shouldn’t be allowed to do that but you’re right and should be able to do what you want?
I don’t think there’s much different between the two and both are wrong.
I'm all for live and let be, but letting vagrancy fester and destroy cities where other people want to live is where I draw the line.
That you don't care about someone's wishes is deeply indicative of your own moral character -- or lack thereof. That we can't even agree to disagree turns my stomach a bit. I'm deeply disappointed, and you've made it very clear to me that I need to walk away from this "community".
So, my final thought will simply be this:
Silicon Valley and their enablers, through their arrogance, short sightedness, and dare I say.. general lack of humanity are creating a dystopian nightmare. In many places, that nightmare already exists in full force. That you don't or can't see it doesn't matter. It's well underway and it won't leave any of us untouched.
If I'm ever drug addicted and homeless, I want you to institutionalize me until I am clean and able to resume a normal life. I'm very confused by anyone who would want anything else for themselves.
That’s what you want again. Maybe consider what others want instead?
> I'm very confused by anyone who would want anything else
If you admit you're confused about what they want and why... leave them alone.
Society coalesced for a reason.