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> US government will at some point soon decide that any person born in mainland China is a security risk

Chinese people earn 15-20% of graduate STEM degrees in US, double the percentage of 10 years ago, and not counting second generation Chinese. At this rate, 'US' STEM will be Chinese dominated long before anyone wakes up to the security risk.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF11347

https://cset.georgetown.edu/publication/estimating-the-numbe...

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What security risk?

This Mr. Wu did something bad inside China, without any evidence that he was colluding with the national and local government of China. How is that translate to security risk at US domestic?

And all these Chinese stem students already contributed critical work to the boom of high tech industry. You are not appreciting their hard work, and link a speculation to national security risk?! How heartless one can be, not only thankless, but vile and judgemental...

Edit:

I am a Chinese American born and raised in China.

I have no strong opinions on this, but for background, there are a bunch of Silicon Valley types like Eric Weinstein (Thiel Capital) who maintain that there are sinister undertones to the growing influence of Chinese immigrants in Tech and Higher Education.

https://djonesvi.medium.com/eric-weinstein-on-the-secretly-c...

Obviously that can veer into uncomfortable conclusions i.e. is it true, or is this kind of racist?

I mean, if the US wanted to "solve" the issue, it's pretty easy.

Offer anyone who graduates with a STEM degree from a reputable institution US citizenship... and require they if they renounce their Chinese citizenship (which happens automatically per Chinese law, but just to be sure).

I don't think it's going to dispel the scary monster because some people would argue that "They have roots in China", so maybe just get every Chinese out of the door?

> i.e. is it true, or is this kind of racist?

You say that as if it couldn't be both...

I didn't use xor :)

maybe both, but i was just reading the other day about the CCP setting up offices/groups/whatever basically everywhere. even around american colleges though its more low key. many chinese (ethnically, many are not even citizens) overseas join the party because they either worry about problems with relatives in mainland china, or some think itll help their careers, or they may think itll help grease the wheels if and when they return. a lot of them just spend hours studying speeches by xi for their club, apparently.

i think whats more worrying is that ive recently become concious of what i say about china online, and i have no connection at all to china. would it be a problem for me tomorrow? probably not, but 20 years from now? maybe.

Looking at what Peter thiel and Weinstein presented, my impression has been that they are seeing the threat as a general trend as an influence on the US way of society. Or to be precise, the type of society that enjoyed by the rich. The powerful in US are not as better off as their counterparts in China.

As a Chinese American myself, any derivation from Peter and Weinstein's argument as the basis for special treatment to Chinese immigrants, or default being suspicious stereotype, is plain racism (looking at how Chinese Americans are treated, racism seem not applicable to our group).

There is zero chance that the OP claim 'US government will decide that any person born in China is a security risk' will ever happen. There is an ongoing STEM arms race between US and China, with China possibly already ahead. US has its hands tied, as it can't restrict 15-20% (and growing) of its STEM workforce pipeline and risk falling further behind.

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