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This is China, deep contacts with the CCP are expected. You can be sure that neither Musk nor Tesla has full control of the factory.

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i agree. the problem i have with the author's comment is "loyal". I think we need to distinguish people from justing trying to make money (apple, microsoft, tesla) and being CCP agents.

The author clearly suggests this American CEO is a "loyal CCP" agent. I am just curious how did she/he spot him?

Basically every large corporation in existence has deep government ties, but CCP bad

Last time I checked the US wasn't harvesting organs, running concentration camps, blatantly committing genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Yes, CCP bad.

In fact, the US is doing all of those things.

Nope, it's only doing #2, and in far smaller numbers.

I'll agree with this but the difference is drastic. Compare the number of people in Guantanamo to the number of people in Xinjiang. An order of magnitude of an order of magnitude difference.

Guantanamo is an embarrassment but it isn't even close to the Xinjiang camps

America killed a million Muslims just in the time that I've been alive. China has done nothing so psychopathic and cruel.

Again, laughable. Care to justify that figure?

That's not nearly as bad as the 16 billion Uighurs the Chinese have in camps right now.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/unworthy-victims-weste...

Just say you don't care. The most unbearing thing for us is that you claim to care while brutalizing and fetishizing others to justify your own crusade.

How many Muslims has America sterilized and brainwashed?

I don't have the numbers on Muslims, but here you go: https://en.mundohispanico.com/the-uterus-collector-sterilize...

You've probably already thought of multiple excuses, because you've been conditioned not to think of immigrants in concentration camps as people.

That's because concentration camps refers to your own citizens. Which doesn't excuse what happened in those US facilities. This isnt a trivial distinction; government's have a specific responsibility to their own citizens which goes above and beyond. Besides which china does some super sketch stuff on its border with north Korea.

How about you don't make assumptions about who you're talking to?

You are comparing indirect casualties from a war to people intentionally murdered in concentration camps.

You are correct. I don't find that in any way to be a compelling argument.

I think you meant million instead of billion (ironic in a thread quibbling over orders of magnitude)

no, I'm pointing out how easy it is to make up numbers.

Very curious where the US is commiting genocide or ethnic cleansing. Honestly want to know.

Iraq and Afghanistan until recently. And we send billions to Israel which is a straight up apartheid state. That's not even getting into the millions of minorities in the world's largest prison population. We also killed a significant portion of the vietnamese population, in the millions. Also, you should look into the decades of CIA interventions in dozens of latin American countries.

have you heard of indian reservations?

You’re joking right? Indian reservations are their land. And they are free to move live work where ever without government oversight. This comment must be bait because I don’t see the logic.

This is laughable.

America has the largest slave population in the world, both per capita and in absolute numbers. I know you think that's funny, but most people don't.

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