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Comment by jongalloway2 | Hacker News Reader

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Hi, I'm on the .NET community team. Here's what we see as the happy path for .NET:

- .NET website (https://dot.net) - High level info on different workloads, 5 minute in-browser tutorials, links to live shows and community

- MS Learn (https://aka.ms/mslearn-dotnet) - Interactive tutorials with learning paths built from 30ish minute learning tutorials

- Docs (https://aka.ms/msdocs-dotnet) - More in-depth documentation on specific tasks and features, e.g. API documentation, performance optimization, security guidance, etc.

While you can go directly to any of them, the dot.net site will link you to Learn modules that will link you to docs, so hopefully you can start on the dot.net site and it will help you find the right place.

One thing I really like (and I'm totally biased because I've helped set it up) is https://live.dot.net. Those are all our live shows with the PM and dev teams. We've got a show every day of the week, and there's always really good Q&A in the chat.

Hey, thanks for your work, love .NET.

I guess this is as good of a chance as I'm gonna get - the docs experience in non-anglosphere countries is dreadful, the website keeps pushing a localized version with absolutely garbled machine translations which are never going to be even passable for technical documentation. It's just a completely miserable experience without the "FFS MSDN" browser extension.[1][2]

At least that was the situation a year or so ago - all my computers are now 100% English locale so I have no quick way to check.

Just let us use the website in English.

[1]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ffs-msdn-in-e...

[2]: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ffs-msdn-in-englis...

Hah, I hadn't realized there was a dedicated browser extension for this. I've been using the Redirect plugin for Firefox to regex-rewrite the URLs - because obviously, the machine translated documentation is useless at best (and harmful at worst).

Indeed ridiculously annoying though. For some reason, Google also started to show the titles of English-language YouTube videos in machine translated German for me, usually completely garbling the meaning - and the video is in English anyway! It's not like I could watch it if I didn't already understand the original title!

Who would have thought that managers in primarily monolingual cultures (i.e. the US) don't understand the actual needs of an international, polyglot audience? The techbro-ism behind these decisions is palatable. "That's a technological solution to what I, without actually asking any of the people affected, imagine to be a problem, so it must be good, right? I mean, it has ML?"

Thanks for letting me know, I'll check in with friends in docs and try to get this sorted out. Sorry for the frustration.

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