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Comment by axelf4 | Hacker News Reader

That is not a good comparison. The extra hashes would help China find out about more borderline citizens than it otherwise would have.

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Have we established that a US NGO is accepting "CSAM" hashes from China or that they are cooperating with them at all? That seems unlikely and Apple hasn't yet announced plans with how they're going to scan phones in China, I mean wouldn't China just demand outright to have full scanning capabilities of anything on the phone since you don't have any protection at all from that in China?

> Have we established that a US NGO is accepting "CSAM" hashes from China or that they are cooperating with them at all?

I believe Apple's intention is to accept hashes from all governments, not just one US organization. One of their ineffectual concessions to the criticism was to require two governments provide the same hash before they'd start using it.

China can definitely find a state government requiring some cash injection to help push the hash of a certain uninteresting square where nothing happened into the db

The main announcement was Apple was getting hashes from NCMEC but they also listed ICMEC and have said "and other groups". Much like the source database for the image hashes the list of sources is opaque and covered by vague statements.

Sure, but Apple receives far less backlash if the system is applied to all phones and under the guise of "save the children". This would allow Apple to accommodate any nation state's image scanning requirements, which guarantees their continued operation in said markets.

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