I can't imagine thinking that banning any wasteful products is a negative. Do you really need a straw? Bring your own if you do.
That's one metric. Are you sure it's the best way to understand this question?
If people are using them, then almost by definition people are finding value from them, so you have to be more careful than that (not to mention the administrative cost of the ban, but let's ignore that here).
Straws are a small enough thing that it's easy to be mindlessly dismissive by saying "bring your own", but that does not actually advance your side of the argument at all. You can see how absurd that argument is when applying it to other things -- why not ban wasteful drink bottles and cans? Just bring your own cup or bottle from home. Or ban the wasteful automobile, just walk or ride or catch a bus if you want to go somewhere.
Or looking at it another way -- straws are such a minuscule part of the plastic pollution problem that banning them really doesn't matter right? If you can handwave away their small inconsequential value, then I can handwave away their small inconsequential impact.
> A large group of people have determined that it is wasteful and have therefore pushed to change it. I'm not a "lone thinker" in this regard. I can't imagine a world view in which you deem the disposal of straws, used entirely to suck liquids inside of probably an hour window, is not an easy problem to solve. I would also argue that such seemingly trivial changes are symptomatic of increasing reflection and movement towards the reduction of plastic, rather than as you paint it, some kind of virtue signalling exercise intended to piss off other people. At the end of the day, most people are not in control of global supply chains or have extenuating circumstances that inhibit their ability to contribute to the reduction of plastic waste beyond mitigating what they do and dont chuck out.
Logical fallacies. None of what you wrote addresses what I wrote or the flaws in your assertion.
> (of a person, action, or process) using or expending something of value carelessly, extravagantly, or to no purpose.
So yes. It is extravagant to use a straw and then throw it out and it is wasteful especially when perfectly viable alternatives are available that do not produce plastic debris.
not "by definition" really
There is a limit of things you can ban before people will get tired of banning, and then you won't be able to ban things that might fully deserve it.
BTW, the world is running out of clean water, so how about we ban dishes in the restaurants to avoid wastefully washing them? Just bring your own, right?