A fact that the site above somehow doesn’t consider noteworthy.
> But the drug’s promise as a treatment for the virus is in serious doubt after the Elgazzar study was pulled from the Research Square website on Thursday “due to ethical concerns". Research Square did not outline what those concerns were.
Emphasis mine.
It then goes on to quote a man claiming all sorts of fraudulent accusations with no actual sources for anything demonstrating the validity of the accusations. I'm not saying the paper is not fraudulent, it could be, I'm saying I'd like to see more than some guy saying it is and a journal not releasing a similar statement.
That's a far cry from "proven to be a fraud" as you say.
I want to actually know if this treatment works, not emotionally decide beforehand one way or another based on my attitude towards the vaccines. It seems I'm in the minority here. If only you knew how frustrating it is. So I'll read your links, I'll read studies and stories saying it doesn't work, I'll read the FLCCWHYTHEFUCKCANTYOUJUSTTYPEFLCCC and I'll look at methodologies of all of it and figure it out for myself.
If you're going to claim fraud, a strong claim, make sure your source doesn't explicitly state that it is not known whether it is fraud or not. From where I sit, both you and the person you're arguing with have picked your horses and are no longer concerned with the truth. I will say though, at least they're arguing use of a mostly harmless, not experimental medicine that has other positive effects whether it works for covid or not.
This additional analysis on the data [0] to me appears to be of significant concern to the validity of the study and suggests fraud on the behalf of the investigators, or at the very least significant methodological failures with study design and data capture which trickled down into ultimately a flawed the study which at the very least is highly suspect to largely useless in adding knowledge to the question of whether ivermectin is a beneficial treatment for the COVID Arsenal. In an era where the politicisation of COVID and it’s treatments is at such a high level, and the thirst for polluting the discourse so high from bad actors, all players in this space need to be attempting to uphold the highest levels of scientific rigour and unfortunately it appears that standard is not being delivered upon here.
There are many other sources that you can follow from there from investigators (using the term in the academic/scientific sense) reviewing the data and paper that your keen interest in following and reviewing the evidence yourself will lead you to should you so desire
[0] https://steamtraen.blogspot.com/2021/07/Some-problems-with-t...