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I can't wait until /child-safety 404s or redirects to /safety and there's a wall of marketing blurb (possibly only in Chinese at first) that explains how 'national security' concerns are reported to the CCP.

This has totally pushed me over the edge, though I'll admit I was oblivious to begin with. My plan is to replace the MacBooks with a Thinkpad P15 gen 2 running Ubuntu and replace the iPhone with something running Ubuntu Touch (Volla Phone, Fairphone, OnePlus One). Screw not having control.

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That’s a smart plan. Apple didn’t misunderstand the criticism, they just have ulterior motives. It’s the only rational explanation.

“It’s the only rational explanation.”

Or, perhaps they feel really strongly about child exploitation?

If they did, they would have done this much sooner.

Then they would not allow pay-to-play in-app purchases

As another commentator stated, if they actually cared about this issue, they would have done what all the other cloud providers have been doing for many years, and what everyone opposed to this wants them to do - just scan the cloud. That's all they're effectively doing right now, only with the scanning happening on a person's private device.

Same here. Just that I'll get rid of MS and Google. That means CalyxOS on my Pixel 2 and some version of Linux on my private ThinkPad. Once I find time that is, which to be honest can take a while. I think the last time I used my private laptop was over a month ago. Phone is different, but again time constraints. It will happen so.

I'm in the same situation in terms of tech debt against my personal infrastructure. I have plans to migrate my personal (currently Ubuntu) server to use Proxmox on top of selling the current machines & buying new non-Apple ones for this. The evening and weekend time is tight.

There is another option - don’t put anything sensitive on your phone and basically treat it as an adversary already has root access. This pretty much what I do for a long time. All the sensitive information (e.g. banking) is on Linux desktop and there are no logins or apps on iPhone or work laptop (hn is not sensitive ;) ).

> hn is not sensitive

In literally 30s looking at your comments it shows that you're an HR and an amateur pilot.

Seeing the number of comments, with slightly more time, your place of residence and political leaning would probably become apparent.

Missed 100% ;)

> don’t put anything sensitive on your phone and basically treat it as an adversary already has root access

Why am I paying 100s of $$$ to own a device that is adversarial?

For fun. Why do people pay to run with the bulls or to own a tiger? We pay because we love the thrill that comes from a pocket adversary.

I started a thread on what specific actions we can take to avoid Apple and other big tech in future. While it did not gain much traction, I am hoping there are at least 1,000 people in the world who think like me and over time we will be able to influence more people.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28157281

I might be reading between the lines here, but you know that Thinkpads are made in China, by a Chinese company, Lenovo.

Dell XPS 13's are better than MBP anyway.

I also note that /child-safety page is only(?) accessible from outside search/link. There is no corresponding press article. This thing is just floating in the air somehow…

check out the Framework Laptop - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rkTgPt3M4k

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