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It’s frankly exhausting to have discussions when both sides live in their own worlds. You sound arrogant, “only one side is correct and it’s my side”

Every day I switch between msnbc, nbc, warroom.org, breaking points, Ben Shapiro and Tim pool. Probably ~6-8hrs a day I listen to content at double speed (while doing other stuff).

Every single one has their own take, but just to get you up-to-date with what the right believes:

* BLM and Antifa caused billions in damages. Harassing or attacking everyone who disagreed with ideology (they were coming to senators homes)

* in some places this is leading to the reintroduction of segregation https://atlantablackstar.com/2021/08/10/it-was-just-disbelie...

* FBI spied on trump on Clinton and Obama’s behalf. Utilizing a known fabricated document (fabricated to keep business with the Clinton foundation - see uranium one): https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-sc...

* election laws were changed last minute, broken among other things to effect a coup and they brag about it: https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

* more people voted in 2020 than were registered in 2016 or 2018. With a 93% then out rate.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/273743/number-of-registe...

* here’s a couple video explaining some of their concerns about the election

https://rumble.com/vkyxju-retired-u.s.-army-colonel-phil-wal...

https://rumble.com/vkyzgb-mike-lindell-cyber-symposium-dr.-d...

The list goes on and on...

It’s frankly exhausting to have discussions when both sides live in their own worlds.

It is indeed.

You sound arrogant, “only one side is correct and it’s my side”

I have very little patience for dishonesty. If that makes me seem "arrogant" to peddlers of disinformation, so be it.

BLM and Antifa caused billions in damages

Sure. That was terrible and uncalled for. Lots of bad ideas and movements come from the grassroots left, like "Defund the Police" and "All Cops are Bastards". I don't recall this being sanctioned or incited by Joe Biden or the Democratic Party, and it wasn't a coup d'etat.

in some places this is leading to the reintroduction of segregation

I didn't see where your source made a connection between these events. Either way, if you think that a racist principal imposing segregation in their school somehow vindicates right-wing insurrectionists, I don't know what to tell you.

FBI spied on trump on Clinton and Obama’s behalf. Utilizing a known fabricated document

This is an article about two British citizens independently making a decision to attempt to influence our election in a small way. I find that objectionable for the same reason as Russia's larger-scale election interference, but I don't see how it relates to the conspiracy theory of Obama spying on Trump.

election laws were changed last minute, broken among other things to effect a coup and they brag about it

Can you be more specific? All I'm seeing from an initial pass is that an effort was made to respond to right-wing voter suppression efforts and disinformation leading up to the election.

more people voted in 2020 than were registered in 2016 or 2018. With a 93% then out rate.

That was pretty cool. I'm not sure what you're suggesting it has to do with right-wing beliefs.

here’s a couple video explaining some of their concerns about the election

Sure, I'm aware that Trump and his allies claim to have concerns. That's what we're discussing here. Do you have more specific points and sources that aren't videos?

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