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Everyone, including some small startups have already added Clubhouse-like functionality into their own apps.

Look at Discord, Facebook / Instagram, Twitter, Reddit, LinkedIn, Spotify, Telegram, and even small startups like 'Public' have treated it like a feature, which is why Clubhouse is losing users.

The only daily active users there are a16z and the same VCs of Clubhouse. I still don't know why it is worth $4B.

And now Slack, with Slack Huddles [0]

[0] https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/help/articles/4402059015315-Int...

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It is a useful feature, but I doubt that’s why clubhouse is losing users. If clubhouse truly had interest conversations from interesting people all of whom derived benefit from these conversations it wouldn’t have lost to these other platforms because of network effects. Everyone was on clubhouse.

I think the article does a good job backing up their theory about why clubhouse’s network effect has evaporated. People were there because it was a great way to show status during the pandemic. Now that other status displaying activities have opened up, they’ve left it en masse.

> Everyone was on clubhouse.

Anecdatapoint: I don't recall hearing anyone talk about Clubhouse - or at least not in enough detail that it actually stuck with me what it was - before this post.

I may live under a small rock, but others must be under here with me. Some app? Okay, moving on. Sometimes the network effect is so focused that the in-network and the out-network can't perceive each other.

> Everyone was on clubhouse.

Given that Clubhouse peaked in January - February 2021 [0], where were the Android users at the time then?

[0] https://9to5mac.com/2021/02/18/clubhouse-reaches-8-million-d...

I do think that Clubhouse was aiming for a different use case than what's happening in these other apps. I say this as a daily user of Slack Huddles (love 'em) and frustrated week-long Clubhouse user, but mostly as a product market-fit analyst.

The problem is, the market Clubhouse is trying to create is a Wild West without near-perfect content curation. It's going to fail a hundred times before taking off and when it does it's not going to be as big as everyone though initially, much like groupon.

Discord has had that for years before clubhouse?

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