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I agree, there is very little difference between these. The invasion on Afghanistan was one of the most senseless, impulsive actions on the part of the USA: Bush desperately wanted tho show a strong reaction to 9/11 but was too stupid to do something that would have some actual positive impact and in the end made the situation worse. Also, he hasn't managed to kill Bin Laden, Obama did.

Iraq seems even worse. They admitted they invaded it on false grounds and the supposed WMDs haven't been found to this day. And it was just the beginning, because the invasion created an even greater evil, ISIS.

As for Libya, it's true that many people hated Kadafi and he was a cruel man (just like Hussein, Bin Laden and the rest of the crew), but the final result for ordinary people was a disaster. So whenever someone proposes "let's kill a dictator and al problems will disappear" for me such a person is a lunatic.

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ISIS, 9/11 and the invasions were planned you don't think people in high places are just some kids getting angry and acting on it, do you?

the dictators when you try to reasonate anything they're doing, you can see clearly they're working for someone, and you guess who might this one be.

because of course, destroying a whole country, violating human rights etc, isn't going to guarantee you a good long life for you and your family unless you have someone stronge enough to make you trust him tell you otherwise.

most dictators are against what the population believe and are enslaving people more or less. it's just the modern unseen slavery of the west.

By the way, USA made Al Qaueda and they were called the freedom fighters or something like that inb4.

What changed? the USSR ended and now they found another use for them, to stereotype the muslims and cause distress and push them off their religion to the new world-wide religion, humanity, ps. sugar-coated atheism.

This is a topic for a completely different discussion. In short, 9/11 happened much earlier than 9/11, in the sense that there were decades of anger and resentment on the part of - generally speaking - Middle-East Muslim community at the actions of Israel and the USA. When 9/11 happened some people were actually happy. I know this because I spoke to them personally. It's hard do believe but it shows how large the divide had become: you needed this kind of horror to make it a mainstream topic.

So what the American president is doing? Instead of finally starting to work hard on American-ME relations, he decided to invade another country. A country that had been unsuccessfully invaded in the past and has the worst natural conditions for invasion, with Taliban with bazookas hiding in caves and ordinary people living in villages, and the two freely mixing. What could possibly go wrong?

I'm not saying that peace in the ME is easy, it even became a kind of meme that it's impossible, but there is no hope if Israel doesn't consider some concessions. And year after year, decade after decade it becomes worse. Any American interventions, any casualty makes it much worse. But it seems we're to stupid to work on the causes and can only deal with the results. It just makes me sad as ordinary people can't do anything about it.

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