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Surviving is not the same thing as living just as noise is not the same thing as music.

People have lost their minds over covid and act in ways that they would have said were insane probably five years ago.

A bunch of younger people at very little risk of getting horribly sick, are demanding that everyone get vaccinated wear masks and want life to be miserable even though it is older people who are saying I’d rather just live my life and if I die I die.

I might get one dose of the vaccine, just so I can not be part of either side of this crazy debate.

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You can't become part of some crazy ideological group unless you start believing and spreading their rhetoric -- the crazies on both sides don't "own" the action of getting a vaccine. If you're already willing to get the vaccine, you may as well get both doses (assuming you're talking about a two-dose vaccine). You can keep living normally, instead of just surviving as you say, while affording yourself and others around you the maximum protection possible.

First two doses for me is completely pointless. I’ve already have covid and recovered, which should be enough, but the crazies have also insisted you should still get vaccine, but even the mighty spirit of our age “science” has said just getting one as a booster combined with natural immunity would probably make you less likely to get or spread it than even those with two doses.

So no I will not get two doses because it is pointless. I might get one, and I’ll be more “safe” than all the others, yet I will purposefully not get two so I don’t get tempted to thinking those who didn’t should be shunned and isolated.

Let me ask you this, if I was a coworker and you found out I wasn’t vaccinated, yet wasn’t following the mandates, would you just say whatever, or would you notify the hotline to report violators? Could you do that with a good conscience?

Also there are crazies on the other side too. People thinking there are giant conspiracies of powerful people plotting together how to get more power. No the scary thing about it all, is everyone the powerful and the weak are acting the way they are and feel completely justified and have their approval of their conscious.

> I might get one dose of the vaccine, just so I can not be part of either side of this crazy debate.

What a silly way to make health decisions.

It's obvious sarcasm.

In this era, it is not obvious sarcasm. They might have intended it as sarcasm, but it’s far from obvious.

Edit: looks like it wasn’t sarcasm at all.

I might actually get two doses in case my natural immunity is bad. And then rip up my vaccine card and will join with the non vaccinated crowd in not being allowed in restaurants demanding proof of vaccinations. Meanwhile as long as I’m not sick I will keep hanging out (as I’ve done this whole time) with my other non sick friends, and giving hugs and generally try to enjoy life.

So you’re going to get the vaccine, and purposefully exclude yourself from restaurants you think it’s safe to go to in order to make a point on behalf of people protesting the vaccine for reasons you don’t believe.

There’s a reason why I decided you weren’t making serious arguments worth debating. This is performative nonsense.

And there’s a reason your response is ignorant.

You can make a straw man of my argument but don’t try to act like you are some high and mighty smart guy who knows better than those dumb dumbs down there.

I know your type, you try to pretend that you’ve arrived at all your conclusions through thorough scientific processes coupled with your supreme intellect.

Yet you prove to be more ignorant than most.

Let me guess now you’ll say look at my degrees I am smart.

There may come a time where you will have to choose to hide a non-vaxxer in your basement, or rat out the dangerously healthy individual to the authorities. I’d choose hiding them in my basement with my conscience wondering if I should, and you can choose ratting out your neighbor with the approval of your conscience.

It actually wasn’t. Well I mean it was, but I mean if I get a vaccine, I literally will just get one dose.

No it isn’t actually. I’ve already had covid and recovered, so no “science” is saying you should get more than one as a booster.

I’m only slightly joking about getting one dose. Although natural immunity makes me statistically unlikely to get or spread covid, there is thoughts that the vaccine might do better against the variants (and some thoughts it might do worse).

They say it wouldn’t hurt to get a vaccine if you already had it, but probably just one as a booster.

I want to get one dose, to not be on the side who thinks these vaccine have chips in them and will make you infertile, and to not be on the side that is crazy and thinks we should have zero risk in life that we get sick and die, and would literally advocate for not allowing healthy people to be out of unvaccinated, because with natural immunity and a booster and I’d be even lower risk than double vaccinated yet would still not be allowed to do things only vaccinated people would do, pointing out the absurdity.

Sorry, that’s absurd. I cannot understand how you’re thinking about this, it is completely disjoint from how I think, and what I believe reality is. You might as well be talking about the sky being green as part of your rationalizations.

So let me ask you this, if there were vaccine mandates to do xyz and you had a coworker, who you knew not to be fully vaccinated doing xyz, and the authorities have given a hotline to anonymously report violators, would you report this person?

I mean I know how you feel though. Literally I’ve had friends whose kids couldn’t hug their grandmother for a year, while they were all visibly healthy and outside.

Like people are insane. I’ve had covid, and yet some would still recommend I avoid hanging out indoors with others who have also have covid if none of us have been vaccinated.

The vaccines are super duper effective, but because a possibility exist you could still get sick and the virus could mutate again we should go on living like crazy hermits and not be the social beings we are.

It is insane.

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